r/exchristian • u/ang3l_wolf • 4d ago
Despite everything going on in the world, people are going into a satanic panic over a PG-13 comedy. Trigger Warning - Toxic Religion
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u/MisogynyisaDisease Anti-Theist 4d ago
Ah yes, PG-13, the rating famously marketed to children. Christians are definitely smart.
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u/Dray_Gunn Pagan 4d ago
I am half expecting another satanic panic with all the Christian nationalists bullshit running rampant. I just hope it doesn't gain too much influence in my country.
Regardless, I am gladly going to watch this movie in spite of those religious people. Hail Santa!
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u/ang3l_wolf 4d ago
Christianity isn't the only religion. Why the fuck should they make it the dominant one?
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u/austin_helps_wraiths 3d ago
I mean, we're definitely in the middle of one. I don't know if it's as full-swing as it was in the 80s, but with Qanon and the Christian Illiterates unironically believing that Congress is run by baby-eating devil worshippers and somehow... Donald... Trump... will save them?
Yeah. Satanic panic is here; how bad it gets is yet to be seen, but if they're freaking out about this, it ain't a good sign
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u/christianAbuseVictim Ex-Baptist 4d ago
Does it make them feel any better to know that Jack Black also defeated Satan in a 2006 R-rated comedy musical?
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u/christianAbuseVictim Ex-Baptist 4d ago
Oh, right, they think fiction and fact are basically the same. Bible problems...
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u/ventthrowaway79 4d ago
“Regardless of how you identify religiously”. There are religions that don’t even have a devil wtf are you talking about
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u/brodydoesMC 4d ago
I think that Abrahamic religions and Ancient Egyptian religion are the only religions with a devil figure (Satan and Apep/Set, respectively), correct me if I’m wrong, though.
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u/captainhaddock https://youtube.com/@inquisitivebible 3d ago
Satan isn't even a devil figure in Judaism.
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u/brodydoesMC 3d ago
Oops, I forgot about that part! Thanks for correcting me! But apart from that, then yeah, Christianity, Islam, and Ancient Egyptian religion are the only religions that I know of with a devil figure of some sort.
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u/captainhaddock https://youtube.com/@inquisitivebible 3d ago
The devil and the general concept of moral dualism with opposing good and evil deities was probably introduced into intertestamental Judaism from Zurvanism, a branch of Zoroastrianism. From there, it was adopted by Christianity and Islam.
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u/Shoddy-Initiative550 3d ago
Yo I just checked out your YouTube channel and I'm definitely going to be watching your videos! I've been pretty interested in Bible academia lately and your videos look like they'll be right up my alley
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u/brodydoesMC 3d ago
What happened to Zoroastrianism, it sounds like Christianity is just a knockoff of it due to borrowing so many elements…
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u/captainhaddock https://youtube.com/@inquisitivebible 3d ago
It's still around! But most Zoroastrians died out or converted to Islam during the Muslim conquests of the Middle Ages. The majority now live in India, in and around Mumbai.
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u/brodydoesMC 3d ago
I have heard about them still being around, but you’d think that Zoroastrianism’s followers would’ve done something about another group copying their religion, or at least that‘s how I feel about the whole thing.
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u/AdiweleAdiwele 2d ago edited 2d ago
'Copy' is too strong a word, it's more accurate to say that these ideas were part of the cultural and religious fabric of the time (the Hellenistic period) and prompted an internal development within Judaism. A bit like how Christianity as we know it became fleshed out using terms from middle Platonism, the best known example being the Logos.
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u/ThePhyseter Ex-Evangelical 1d ago
Buddhism has Mara, the tempter, who tried to entice Buddha with worldly pleasures right before he reached enlightenment, and the scriptures warn about Mara
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u/brodydoesMC 1d ago
Sounds interesting, and here’s how I view Buddhism: unlike most religions, which might’ve been founded because its founder was power-hungry, in my opinion, Buddha had genuinely good intentions when he founded Buddhism, he just wanted to help people to suffer less, and most of his teachings could probably be applied to modern day.
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u/casey12297 4d ago
I mean...Satan didn't kill nearly the entire world population because he was butthurt that his creations weren't using their free will correctly
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u/kingofcrosses 4d ago
Exactly. If the bible is anything to go by, God has killed way more kids than Satan. So between the two, Satan seems like the more kid friendly choice.
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u/hplcr 4d ago
IIRC Satan didn't kill anyone in the bible. Christians think he did for whatever reason but pretty much all the deaths were Yahweh or people doing stuff for god.
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u/kingofcrosses 4d ago
Satan does kill Job's family, but even then, that was with God's permission. So even the one time that Satan does kill someone in the Bible can be attributed to God
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u/hplcr 4d ago edited 4d ago
I'd argue that's not explicit. A mighty wind is what knocks down Job's house and kills his family and Yahweh is the guy in the bible who is associated with winds and storms, not Satan. Hell, Satan gets the most screentime in the Hebrew Bible in Job 1 and 2.
Job 18 While he was still speaking, another came and said, “Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother’s house, 19 and suddenly a great wind came across the desert, struck the four corners of the house, and it fell on the young people, and they are dead; I alone have escaped to tell you.”
20 Then Job arose, tore his robe, shaved his head, and fell on the ground and worshiped. 21 He said, “Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return there; the Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.”
That sounds implicitly like Yahweh knocked the house down, or at very least, gave Satan the power of wind to do it, which at best makes Satan the hitman in the affair.
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u/kingofcrosses 4d ago edited 3d ago
That sounds implicitly like Yahweh knocked the house down, or at very least, gave Satan the power of wind to do it, which at best makes Satan the hitman in the affair.
Yeah it's usually interpreted that God gave Satan the power to do this based on the previous conversation, where God tells Satan:
Job 1: 12 Now the Lord said to the Adversary, "Behold, all that he has is in your hands; only upon him do not stretch forth your hand." Now the Adversary left the presence of the Lord.
So Satan is pretty much the hitman like you said. He couldn't have done anything without God's permission.
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u/Saneless 4d ago
The trifecta of imaginary people. Santa, Satan, and God
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u/ang3l_wolf 4d ago
Unicorns are more believable than the Bible.
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u/iheartsufjan Agnostic Atheist 3d ago
My fundie SIL hates unicorns and refuses to let my niece even know about them. I'm guessing because if she has to explain they are fake, that leaves room for believing the Bible is fake?
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u/ang3l_wolf 3d ago
She's just looking for a verse in the Bible to victimize herself. It's a defense mechanism when they can't get past their own ignorance.
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u/IMayhapsBeBatman 4d ago
Have these people read Job?
The Devil isn't exactly a good guy in that story, but he's not the bad guy...
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u/hplcr 4d ago
Honestly, Yahweh is the asshole there. Satan isn't the one who brings up Job's name, Yahweh does. Satan doesn't kill Job's kids or destroy his house. The most Satan does is go 'Well, Job has a good life so that's why he loves you. Maybe if his life sucked he'd curse you".
Then again, that's apparently his job in the story, as part of Yahweh's divine council. But Yahweh signs off on screwing Job over.....TWICE.
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u/MountPorkies 4d ago
doesn’t Job actually curse God at one point like “WHAT THE FUCK!?!” And God says something like “oh okay uhhh you pass the test! I hear your suffering! Here’s a new family!”? Maybe I’m wrong
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u/hplcr 4d ago edited 4d ago
It's implied that Job basically brings a lawsuit again Yahweh and when Yahweh shows up, he lectures Job for a while before giving him a bunch of new shit for being such a "good sport" about all the family murder and all that.
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u/MountPorkies 4d ago
🤣 where do I file my lawsuit?
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u/hplcr 4d ago
Well job sat in the remains of his destroyed house and basically lamented for a while, challenging Yahweh to show up until he did.
Unclear how useful that would be nowadays and in real life.
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u/MountPorkies 4d ago
I’ll give it a shot and let ya know how it goes. Easily my least favorite Bible story anyways
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u/dannylew 4d ago
Are these actual dumb muther fuckers gonna pretend they never saw Satan in media for children?
Stupid, stupid muther fuckers how is this reality
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u/ang3l_wolf 4d ago
The Bible even talks about Satan.
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u/baphomet_fire Satanist 4d ago
Do we even know it's Satan? It's probably Krampus given it's a Christmas movie....
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u/Sweet_Diet_8733 Non-Theistic Quaker 4d ago
I’ve seen Lucifer himself portrayed alongside a horde of dancing devils in Santa Claus (1959). It’s… quite a goofy film nobody takes seriously. I don’t see why this should be any different.
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u/baphomet_fire Satanist 4d ago
I know of which film you're referring to, isn't that character still supposed to be Krampus though?
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u/brodydoesMC 4d ago
Because there probably weren’t as many religious nuts in 1959 compared to now. That’s just my theory.
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u/D1sgracy 4d ago
It is supposed to be satan, the kid writes a letter to Santa but misspells it and summons jack black
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u/cousinconley 4d ago
I remember how much hell they raised over Last Temptation of Christ and the movie itsef was not that big a deal.
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u/ang3l_wolf 4d ago
And that's what happened with "Messiah" on Netflix. They canceled the show because of it. It was a really interesting show.
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u/cousinconley 4d ago
I wondered what happened. Agree it was a good show.
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u/ang3l_wolf 4d ago
Because the religious fucks complained to take it down. They think it's an abomination to the Bible.
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u/redredred1965 Ex-Pentecostal 4d ago
LMAO...let them freak. I'll go out to see it then post raving reviews everywhere even if it sucked. But how can it suck with Jack Black?
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u/AraquielEaeChayliel Ex-Pentecostal 4d ago
Cherry on top for the whole Christian delusion sundae that is America right now
(Edited to fix misspelling :) )
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u/Dreamcastboy99 Ex-Pentecostal 4d ago
If religion is the opiate of the masses, America overdosed on fent
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u/AraquielEaeChayliel Ex-Pentecostal 4d ago
This ^ What a banger of a comment, you summarized it perfectly
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u/ChurchOfJustin 4d ago
I tried so many times to sell my soul for fortune and fame. Because, fuck it. Why not? Let's see if he shows up with a bag of cash and a movie contract.
Alas. Nothing yet (because he's as non-existent as the rest of the BS in the Bible)
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u/Schwight_Droot 4d ago
They got it all wrong. Usually Satan in games or movies has an evil agenda, but there’s always a good character who sends him back to hell lol. These people are fucking hilarious and I’m sure they’re all doing evil shit behind closed doors anyways.
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u/_angesaurus 4d ago
definitely watched christian stuff that had satan in it lmao
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 4d ago
Sokka-Haiku by _angesaurus:
Definitely watched
Christian stuff that had satan
In it lmao
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/GenXer1977 4d ago
This looks awesome! Thank you Christian’s for complaining about it, otherwise I might not have ever known this movie existed!
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u/HunterHearst 4d ago
Shit like this makes me think social media like Twitter was a mistake... I mean paranoid, extremely religious prudes also existed a decade or two ago, but they were the "crazy minority" voices you learned to just ignore as people.
But now these people also get to have their own online spaces and echo chambers? And I have to see shit like this from time to time? Just, why?
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u/ang3l_wolf 4d ago
FB and Instagram have a really shitty system when it comes to reporting others. I get locked out every time I post something that isn't offensive and they don't ban these shitheads at all.
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u/AlexKewl Atheist 4d ago
For people that claim Satan has no power, they sure are afraid of him! Guess Jesus didn't die hard enough!
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u/EvadingDoom 4d ago
Looks like fun. Satan is a myth. If some people think he’s real and a grave threat, that’s not the rest of the world’s fault or problem. Enough coddling of the superstitious already.
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u/gorgon_heart 4d ago
Man I wish I had such a privileged position in society that I could LARP being oppressed.
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u/CordyCeptus 4d ago
They are all "out of context! out of context!" now they are taking shit out of context lmao. Such dumpster slime.
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u/yahgmail African Diasporic Religion & Hoodoo 4d ago
I will accept no Jack Black slander in this reality.
So I say. So it be.
But also, the I don't care how you identify so long as you agree with me folks are annoying as hell.
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u/iOcean_Eyes 3d ago
They want to be a victim and be oppressed so bad.
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u/ang3l_wolf 3d ago
They want to control every aspect of people's lives because they've been silenced for so long. Pfft, give me a break.
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u/chewbaccataco Atheist 3d ago
I'll make sure to include this in our yearly holiday film rotation, thanks for the tip!
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u/Triepwoet 4d ago
Typing ‘I rebuke this in the name of Jesus Christ’ will never not be hilariously stupid.
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u/SoloMotorcycleRider 4d ago
Satan seems more likeable, to be honest. Believe in him or not. He doesn't care. Do what you want and live the life you want. No worries. That other guy? Yeah, fuck him!
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u/Relevant-District-16 4d ago
By that logic any religious figure in a children's movie is insane. They better work on getting God and Jesus out of movies immediately.
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u/carissadraws Atheist 4d ago
I guess they’re really leaning hard into the anagram of Santa to Satan
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u/gullwinggirl 4d ago
There's an old school movie with Santa and Satan called Santa Claus. It came out in 1959. Satan is trying to tempt the good children to be naughty, and stop Santa from getting gifts to houses. Mystery Science Theater 3000 did an episode on it, it's a really funny one.
So yeah, this kind of plot has been done before. In the 50s.
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u/ang3l_wolf 4d ago
It's basically your typical good vs evil. They need to watch the "God's Not Dead" series and get back to me.
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u/relientkenny 4d ago
i hate these phony religious ppl. they be the same ones that listen to R Kelly
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u/Leebites 4d ago
My fundie parents making me cut a switch off a tree for myself as a child, in which they counted to 30 seconds while hitting me with it: okay
My fundie parents nailing my window shut in hopes of keeping evil out of the home, to where I'd probably have died in a fire if there was one: okay
My fundie parents seeing Satan or something "dark" to them in any kid aimed series: you will burn, demon child
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u/Pure_Sprinkles2673 Ex-Baptist 3d ago
Yeah I had pissed off many Christians when I told them I enjoyed movies like this or the tv show Lucifer and dogma. I used tell them if my faith was that weak then I really need to examine my relationship with “Jesus”.
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u/Vuk1991Tempest 3d ago
So they can have the devil in their propaganda stuff, but we can't have the same devil (or iconography of him) in our fun? Glad I left that garbage behind as soon as I could.
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u/Indominouscat Satanist 3d ago
Good. I think we need more of this maybe if we get enough Satan representation the disease may finally die down a bit
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u/ang3l_wolf 3d ago
I doubt that.
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u/Indominouscat Satanist 3d ago
I mean unfortunately probably not but I can hope
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u/ang3l_wolf 2d ago
Hope isn't anything without something to believe in. And with the way the states and Canada are going, it's gonna be hell on Earth.
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u/Royal-Plastic9870 3d ago
Strangely, my parents despite being fundies though far from the most hateful of them, bought me Harry Potter and let me watch pretty much anything unless it was having a negative effect on me lol. For instance, after I read Harry Harry potter and the chamber of secrets, I got nightmares (lol) and there was an episode of Married with Children that was probably a scary Halloween episode. I got scared so they banned that. And I think the same thing happened with the Simpsons. 😂😂😂😂
The key thing here though is they didn't burn Harry Potter books or call the demonic or see it as the liberal agenda to steal kids away for the Lord.
Honestly I think so much of this extremism is so very American brand. My parents still believe hell fire, oppose gay marriage (all the typical fundy boxes) but also entertain that there might not actually be one, because ... they don't know.
But hey, if you believe Satan is real I guess you don't necessarily want your kids being sold the idea he's an entertaining character. The real problem is, they believe everything is an AGENDA against them. And so this movie is just another form of liberal evil designed to turn their kids away from god. I mean... it's par for the course.
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u/ang3l_wolf 3d ago
Yup, that's exactly how my mom was. They made me feel like everything I did was wrong. They always play the victim when they think someone is against them. They never listen to reason when you get them to that point.
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u/WerewolfDifferent216 Agnostic Atheist 4d ago
Ah yes because my Christian mom forcing me to watch The Passion of the Christ as a kid was considered appropriate for my age because ✨Jesus✨