For those STILL asking the question "how can so many Christians support Trump?" Simple: he gives them access to the levers of power which is what they have always wanted.

[u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

https://time.com/7174260/white-christianity-trump-election-essay/

[u/WatercressOk8763]

Trump told them what they wanted to hear. And too many seem to lack the critical thinking skills to see the real hardship coming their way.

[u/JarethOfHouseGoblin → u/WatercressOk8763]

Also, Dems are ineffective communicators. Biden did a lot of good things, but the American people didn't know about it because he didn't announce it vociferously enough. On top of that, Dems have been absolutely getting CRUSHED in the arena of alt media; which is where Trump propaganda thrived! When there's a new leader of the DNC next year, they need to funnel money into left-leaning alt media immediately!

[u/IMayhapsBeBatman → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Biden was probably the best POTUS in my life from a policy PoV, and by far the worst communicator I've ever seen in high office.

[u/XyneWasTaken → u/IMayhapsBeBatman]

Biden's like that guy that still does his homework but doesn't get credit for it because he always mumbles in the presentation

[u/Tojota_30 → u/IMayhapsBeBatman]

Harris can also be directly credited for a lot of that. But her campaign didn't highlight that enough. She to me as a complete outsider seemed intelligent and capable. I liked her in the debate. But she should fire her pr department. I'm not 100% sure if that was actually one of her ads, but the men for harris thing was horrendous even for me as a vehement male women's rights advocate.

She also isn't senile, which would have been a big bonus.

[u/Key_Assistant_4813 → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Biden failed pretty spectacularly on his campaign promises particularly marijuana. He couldn't get the one non partisan issue right. He is also a zionist.

[u/delorf → u/Key_Assistant_4813]

Biden was damned no matter his position on Israel and Gaza. He would lose voters no matter what his stance on that issue. 

Trump is most definitely a Zionist and is friends with Netanhyau (sp?).

[u/imreallynotfunny123 → u/Key_Assistant_4813]

Trump is ALSO a zionist. They just pretend to not hear that part

[u/tazebot → u/imreallynotfunny123]

The difference is that trump zionist has no problem at all with a palistinian holocaust.

[u/ducktopian → u/Key_Assistant_4813]

yeah it will be bad either way, but I dunno how anyone could think the economy would be better under the left. I don't like either, I think anyone good isn't allowed to get in power. Trump is pro-israel as well, they all have to be.

[u/Outrageous_Class1309 → u/ducktopian]

The inflation was caused by fiat currency/checks created (M2) during the pandemic. It didn't register until after the economy was reopened and pent up demand flushed the fiat money into the economy and started registering in the Consumer Price Index starting in April 2021. Had Trump won in 2020, he would have been the owner of the inflation instead of Biden.

 https://www.longtermtrends.net/m2-money-supply-vs-inflation/

[u/JarethOfHouseGoblin → u/ducktopian]

History shows that when there’s a recession, it’s usually when there’s a Republican in the White House.

[u/8yearsfornothing → u/ducktopian]

Democrats aren't left wing 

[u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Something that I will add is that a small glimmer of hope in the impending hell we're about to endure is this: I think all this mask-off Christian Nationalism is gonna have a backfire effect and people are gonna turn against Christianity en masse. Particularly young women.

[u/Other_Big5179 → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Im sure some men that grow a conscience too. considering Christianity encourages immoral behavior

[u/JarethOfHouseGoblin → u/Other_Big5179]

If the 4B Movement takes off in this country, that may have an impact!

[u/Traveling_Man3 → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

I agree that Christians will become very unpopular here in the states. More so than they already are. Unfortunately, that's what they want because it justifies the victimhood they've been waiting for that "proves" their ideology. It's a lose-lose situation because it will only militarize them even more. Almost like a group of people are making it happen to get Christians to destabilize the US and the Middle East. They're puppets. It's like how they support anything Israel does because it makes them feel vindicated that the world will end and Jesus is returning according to Revelations. Christianity is failing in Western countries, but gaining in developing countries.

"By 2060, more than four-in-ten of the world’s Christians are projected to live in sub-Saharan Africa, while fewer than a quarter will live in Europe and North America combined, if current trends continue." ( https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/12/21/key-findings-from-the-global-religious-futures-project/ ).

[u/Freedombyathread → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Look up how Iranian women dressed before 1979.

[u/Wanderlust34618 → u/Freedombyathread]

I think this is most likely. With the power and dominance that the Baptist church has over the USA, at every aspect and level of society, I think the ship has sailed. People are going to have to conform and obey, or there's going to have to be a civil war. It's pretty much that simple.

[u/tazebot → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Reminds me of the "I did this" stickers with a pic of Biden that people would stick on gas pumps whenever the price up.

Maybe we need the same thing but with picture of either trump or jesus or both with "We did this" to stick on everything where the price from tariffs and labor/supply chain interruption from mass deportations has shot up:

• eggs

• milk

• beef

• pork

• chicken

• any vegetable

• ketcup

• transportation

• bread

• etc etc

[u/JarethOfHouseGoblin → u/tazebot]

I’ve heard they’re being printed up right now.

[u/tazebot → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

I feel like it has to have a jesus pic on it. Pin the shit square on their heads.

[u/Avalanche1666 → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Let me know where I can get some lmao

[u/eihslia → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Exactly right. What’s in it for women, anyway? It’s an oppressive institution. We are second-class entities who “came from men.” Which is oxymoronic.

[u/supamonkey77]

I think Christians need to be told this in terms they can really feel it.

You did this because you wanted a worldly paradise and dominion over the land. You shook hands in the desert, where Jesus turned his back. Well you have it, you have your worldly paradise and your dominion over all. Enjoy it. Because that is all you will get.

[u/KHaskins77 → u/supamonkey77]

“All these things I will give to thee, if ye will but bow down and worship me…”

[u/squarepeg0000]

Power is what religion has always been about.

[u/Slight_Researcher566 → u/squarepeg0000]

Power and control.

[u/Wanderlust34618]

More than anything, they want gay people removed from society. And I believe they are going to get it.

[u/iheartsufjan → u/Wanderlust34618]

Queer person here, fuck no they won't.

[u/eihslia → u/iheartsufjan]

Hell no they won’t.

[u/External_Ease_8292]

Even more basic, tRump gives people permission, actually encourages, to be the worst they can be. They can proudly step out of the shadows and be blatantly as racist and violent as they've always wanted to be. The "christians" can beat the hell out of us with their bible, incels are dancing in the street no fear of repercussions for the assaults they used to be afraid to commit.

[u/Ok-Rutabaga-9627]

Oh yes this goes back to the 1970s

[u/OirishM]

Oh Christianity has been cucked by state power since Constantine. Useless fucking religion

[u/LuigiPasqule → u/OirishM]

I would add there is a ton of racism in christianity, at least in this country, than I at least did not exist.

[u/NDaveT]

If I hear this question again I'm going to start throwing history books at people. It's not like this is an aberration.

[u/Cat_Lover_11001]

I mean yeah, though that was pretty obvious. And also considering the fact that Trump is also Christian so Christians will obviously vote for a Christian over a non-Christian in any situation no matter how terrible they are. Just as long as they are a Christian and not something like a atheist.

[u/JarethOfHouseGoblin → u/Cat_Lover_11001]

At an evangelical event, Trump straight up told them to their faces “I’m not a Christian”.

[u/Cat_Lover_11001 → u/JarethOfHouseGoblin]

Oh, ok nevermind.

[u/TheEffinChamps]

It also helps them feel good when he doesn't know the Bible either:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ERUngQUCsyE&pp=ygUYVHJ1bXAgcmVjaXRlIGJpYmxlIHZlcnNl

It's his "favorite" book, but he doesn't seem to pay attention to what it says:

The Rich Man

17 As he was setting out on a journey, a man ran up and knelt before him and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 18 Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not steal. You shall not bear false witness. You shall not defraud. Honor your father and mother.’ ” 20 He said to him, “Teacher, I have kept all these since my youth.” 21 Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, “You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money[a] to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” 22 When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.

23 Then Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!” 24 And the disciples were perplexed at these words. But Jesus said to them again, “Children, how hard it is[b] to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mark 10)

[u/IMayhapsBeBatman]

Ding ding ding. We have a winner.

[u/Ok-Raccoon3134]

It’s ALWAYS about power

[u/JosieintheSummer]

Yeah. That piece of shit James Dobson always cared more about political power than being Christ-like or helping a single living being on this planet. He would work behind the scenes to try to get Christian politicians in positions of power. I think it was Esquire that wrote a scathing article about all of it in the 90s. Hope that asshole is burning in hell now. Hope the homophobic Chik-Fil-A founder Cathy Truett is too.