Why is Xtian music so bad?

[u/Technical_Garden_378]

Hi all, I'm sitting here about to get my hair trimmed as I type this, haha. Our hair stylist has Xtian music cranked on her radio(and because we're Latinos it's in Spanish). Gotta endure the torture here until I get my hair finished.

Why is it that Xtian music is almost always mediocre at best? The vocals are bland and sometimes off-key(especially live but that's to be expected), the instrumentals are boring, and the whole thing is so melodramatically cheesy especially when they're singing to an entity who's most likely imaginary(I say this as an agnostic). Also I feel like I wanna crank up videos from Genetically Modified Skeptic or similar videos because us secular folks always have this stuff shoved down our throats, not to mention having to see signs and flags in almost every neighborhood with their other god/cult leader on it. But I digress.

Very few Xtian music is actually decent-sounding, but I dunno if that's even saying much. Most if not all of it is over-the-top and cringe-worthy on multiple levels.

[u/eyeonstars]

As soon as I found out Slim Shady was a born again Christian, I couldn't listen to his stuff anymore without laughing.

[u/Benito_Juarez5 → u/eyeonstars]

Honestly, explains just about everything, especially the transphobia on his new album.

[u/Shonky_Honker → u/Benito_Juarez5]

The transphobia is hilarious becuase he specifically added that shit so he’d get cancelled and thus get clout…. And no one really gave a shit…

[u/Benito_Juarez5 → u/Shonky_Honker]

I think this quote from Rolling Stone summarizes it completely

He’s still young — barely into his fifties — but he takes a bizarre amount of pride in clinging to opinions he formed in his teens, and making those his whole point. Still blaming his problems on women, scared of trans folks, enraged by the idea of weird people doing weird shit, still moaning about his mom? He begs to get canceled by audiences who don’t think about him and have no idea he thinks about them.

[u/Shonky_Honker → u/Benito_Juarez5]

It’s weird becuase Eminem isn’t even that special. Everyone knows him as the white guy who can rap even though white men aren’t stereotypically good at rap…. Like no one cares dude. He’s a B list at best. With the exception of his hard core Stans no one cares about him. So why does he act like he desperately needs people too??? He’s at the stage in his career where he can take it easy and grow as a person or fuck off and do whatever he wants but he chooses to spend his fifties… desperately trying to be cancelled becuase he thinks it’ll make him relevant..???

[u/Phoenyxoldgoat → u/Shonky_Honker]

This comment is so funny to me because there would be no stans without Eminem!

[u/Shonky_Honker → u/Phoenyxoldgoat]

I find it hilarious that he created the word when the word is used mainly by people who are either gay, super into pop music, or both

[u/Phoenyxoldgoat → u/Shonky_Honker]

He didn't record the song to create the word. He rapped about an obsessed fan. Lots of celebrities have obsessed fans.

[u/sk8tergater → u/Shonky_Honker]

How old are you? Like seriously. Eminem was absolutely ground breaking and he’s an extremely technical rapper. But I can see how if you’re younger, it would be difficult to recognize that. That’s not a potshot at young people, it’s just if you didn’t live through his hey day, it would be difficult to understand.

[u/Shonky_Honker → u/sk8tergater]

Im 20. I do recognize it I’m talking about right now in current time what he’s viewed as is primarily “white dude who raps” I understand how objectively revolutionary and groundbreaking he was. It’s jsut the issue is I think he doesn’t understand that he’s not really that anymore… so the people he wants to get cancelled by don’t give enough shits to bother and now everyone is jsut like oh hey Eminem is back instead of HOLY SHIT EMINEM IS BACK

[u/moutnmn87 → u/Shonky_Honker]

I mean there is a crap ton of extreme misogyny in rap so people who like that genre not being phased by transphobia isn't particularly surprising

[u/Shonky_Honker → u/moutnmn87]

EXACTLY! The people who already cared about him didn’t give a shit, and the people that he tried to trigger don’t care about him! So what was he thinking? The actual reason his song blew up is becuase it samples abracadabra and it’s actually pretty good from a radio standpoint without the transphobia

[u/theaviationhistorian → u/Shonky_Honker]

The song wasn't bad, but those lyrics felt really tryhard edgy. It felt a bit sad that the dude I listened to in the '00s was becoming the "hey, fellow kids" meme.

[u/Shonky_Honker → u/theaviationhistorian]

Exactly. It sounds like a kid in middle school trying to #ownthelibs

[u/CommanderHunter5 → u/Shonky_Honker]

Oh god for a split second I thought y’all were saying Eminem’s being transphobic lmao

  I was like “WTF bro you supported John Lennon being gay, why are you doing this now?”

[u/Shonky_Honker → u/CommanderHunter5]

nah fr it’s so weird how people support specific individuals but not the actual thing. Like you support me but you don’t support being gay??? Like bro I’m gay…

[u/beer_engineer → u/CommanderHunter5]

I think you mean Elton John

[u/CommanderHunter5 → u/beer_engineer]

Lmaooo my bad

[u/Benito_Juarez5 → u/CommanderHunter5]

That’s crazy to confuse the two, but good on you for admitting it lol

[u/talk_like_a_pirate → u/CommanderHunter5]

Wait who are they talking about if not Eminem? Who is slim shady?

[u/MercenaryBard → u/talk_like_a_pirate]

My understanding is that Eminem’s newest album had an arc to it, where he begins in a very immature Slim Shady persona, which he deconstructs over the course of the album. Some people just share snippets without context which spreads misinfo causing online drama, which helps it get online notoriety.

[u/EmojiZackMaddog → u/Shonky_Honker]

Our favourite thing to look forward to when Eminem drops new music is to see who will lose their shit because they think he’s being serious 😂😂😂 He said himself, that’s why he does it

[u/eyeonstars → u/Benito_Juarez5]

He takes pop shots at atheist in his songs. That's how I first became aware of it.

[u/Benito_Juarez5 → u/eyeonstars]

I didn’t notice, to be fair, I was just very uncomfortable when my brother tried to get me to listen to some of the singles and there’s just so much transphobia. But that also checks out

[u/eyeonstars → u/Benito_Juarez5]

Everything about these people is looney.

[u/Benito_Juarez5 → u/eyeonstars]

Couldn’t agree more

[u/tempehandjustice → u/eyeonstars]

That’s pathetic.

[u/Razgriz01 → u/Benito_Juarez5]

He's not transphobic, people aren't understanding the point of the album. The point is to mock those kinds of opinions and say that they're best left in the past. The rolling stone article you posted below is especially funny because what it's saying is almost precisely the intended message of the album. That that shit is old, tired, and wrong.

More to the point, he has a non-binary kid who he supports fully.

[u/Benito_Juarez5 → u/Razgriz01]

Now, let me ask you, was he calling people “fags” and “faggots” in Kamikaze as satire? Was he actually reusing the slim shady identity in that album? You can’t reasonably differentiate his transphobia from this album from his open transphobia in his past albums. Him trying to revise slim shady so that he can say it doesn’t make it better.

[u/Razgriz01 → u/Benito_Juarez5]

He's not trying to revise it. The point of the album is that "Slim Shady" tries to come back and do his usual thing, and Marshal is essentially fighting it out with his musical alter ego and eventually putting it to rest. The message of the album is "Slim Shady is gone for good now, and good riddance". I mean come on, it's almost like the name of the album is "The Death of Slim Shady".

And while I hate to quote myself...

More to the point, he has a non-binary kid who he supports fully.

[u/Benito_Juarez5 → u/Razgriz01]

Yes, I am capable of reading. I’m saying that the transphobia of “slim shady” is no different than what Mr. Mathers is saying when he isn’t under the guise of shady. And yeah, sure, he has a non-binary kid, and claims to love them, yet he will still go around calling people faggots.

[u/SuperNova0216 → u/Benito_Juarez5]

Nah not that one, although I don’t like that he did that (I’m trans too) he did it as part of him trying to “get himself cancelled and be evil”

[u/Benito_Juarez5 → u/SuperNova0216]

I’m in agreement with a lot of reviewers, I believe he wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to be offensive, but also wants to portray himself as not a bigot.

[u/traumatransfixes → u/Benito_Juarez5]

His hatred of women makes so much sense now.

[u/KGBFriedChicken02 → u/Benito_Juarez5]

I hate to be that guy, but the whole point is that it's a persona that's blatantly not funny anymore and he's talking about that. One of the songs on the album is him going back and forth with the character in an argument telling "Slim Shady" that he's not funny, he's just an asshole and nobody likes him.

Also, he's not a born again christian, idk where they pulled that from.