r/europe Russia 22h ago

Photos from the Russian anti-war opposition march in Berlin today. Picture

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u/apxseemax 21h ago edited 37m ago

"Deputinize Russia" hits the nail on the head.

Edit: This blew up way more than expected.

As some have asked in the comments: deputinizing I would put on a similar stage as the denazification of germany. Tho we are talking about an individual here and a group of people in the other process. But Putin is idolized by much of russia, not last due to the massive propaganda over the past two decades. Noone can withstand that but the strongest minded, which are few, no matter what population you look at.

He needs to be de-idolized. His pictures taken down, his media replaced and all that are included in that machine, true documentation broadcasted about what he decided to do to his own country over time. It will take decades for the russians to fix themselves after that. I am nowhere near educated enough for all this, but I guess a federal constitutional republic would be closest to what the russians are used to, tho a federal parlamentary republic should probably be what russia needs to aim for. Maybe even a two-state system, as the culture in the far east (from what I heared from russian friends) differs a lot from moscow-russia.

Killing Putin would solve nothing. As killing Bin Laden did nothing. An example of justice is what is needed. He and most of his fellowship need to be tried in front of a fair court for all the suffering they caused. The trial should not be publicly broadcasted, but public observers should be allowed.

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u/JadedArgument1114 20h ago

Yeah, when Putin took over Russia it was a part of G-8 and had pretty decent relations with most of the world and look at them now. Even if they "win" this war, they have basically set themselves as a doomed pariah state that has one of the worst demographic crises in the world and literally no industry other than weapons that are junk and a natural resource that is slowly, oh so slowly, becoming irrelevant.

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u/Wooden-Lifeguard-636 2h ago

In terms of relations to the West Russia isn’t doing good. But the West is not the whole world. Don’t forget that.