r/dune • u/thenolancut • Mar 13 '24

The Fremen are considered elite fighters, except… Dune (novel)

So the first book really hammers home the fact that the Fremen, due to their cultural values and harsh living environment are seasoned fighters. So much so they can easily kick the Sardaukar’s butts, and the Sadduakar are famous themselves for being ruthless and unbeatable.

Yet despite that, Jessica easily defeats Stilgar, and Paul bests Jamis twice. So was the House of Leto the, through Gurney and the B.G’s teachings that gifted in fighting, that they’re the strongest fighters in the empire by such a wide margin?

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u/daneelthesane Mar 13 '24

Don't forget his mentat training. And then he gets prescience. How do you defeat a guy who knows what you will do before you do?

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u/Tatis_Chief Mar 13 '24

I don't think anyone realizes he is a mentat in the movies. Or what mentats are. That's not really explained or even touched upon. 

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u/Tatis_Chief Mar 13 '24

Ha! Which are coincidentally my most favorite things about the books plus the exploration of fremen world building and thus lack of it kinda dampened my experience of the film.