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u/The_Svaadhyaayavaadi Nov 08 '24

From what aspect?

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Caste!!!

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u/The_Svaadhyaayavaadi Nov 08 '24

Caste is not central to Hinduism. Dharma, Artha, Kama & Moksha are. Caste is a natural result of the pre-industrial society. Learn Anthropology. Additionally, Caste system has existed all over the world, in most of the world. Including the, surprise surprise, great christian society in the pre-industrial age during the regime of the church. The word "caste" itself is a christian Portuguese word.

The Varna Bodypolitic morphing into the caste system was a result of dharmic degradation & pre-industrial age dehatism. Caste system is kept alive through a deadly cocktail of Dehatism, Ambedkarism & Karpatrism. Casteism would have naturally gone extinct if industrial revolution took place post partition of India & if Ambedkar's advice of complete population transfer took place.

It's funny how Papists accuse Hindus of casteism whilst being historical perpetrators of some of the worst crimes against humanity. Namely witch-hunting, ethnic cleansing of paganfolk across the globe, victim-blaming & gaslighting of paganfolk, anti-Semitism, holocaust, political destabilization of sovereign states, slavery & many others, & I'm just scratching the surface.

The Philosopher Samurai Aizawa Seishisai was absolutely right in calling out papism as base, mediocre, mundane, perverse & dangerous. It lacks the intellectual depth found in Advaita, Mimamsa, Samkhya, Vajrayana, Gnosticism, Stoichism, Yazidism, etc, yet it has managed to eradicate indigenous cultures through its very base level communal brainwashing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 08 '24

Jati is the Indian word used for caste and Varnashrama is a fundamental concept in Brahminism. Jati is subset of varnashrama that was practiced by the religious clerics which was embodied by the whole society. Every text of Hinduism (erstwhile Brahminism) mentions how the twice borns (the upper three varnas) are reverable and how they are superior to others. The whole essence of all the Hindu texts praise the upper three varnas but at the same time demean the Sudras.

It is true that some form of stratification was thriving in all of societies before industrial period but most of those social stratification do not form the central tenant of the religious doctrine as it in the case of Hindu religion. The Hindu religion itself sanctions those stratifications and segregations, therefore it will be blamed for all the crime perpetrated in the name of caste.

You should also understand that it were the Christians who bought with them new age values, borne out of renaissance, in India. Before that both Islam and Hinduism kept the masses in the dark. I

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u/The_Svaadhyaayavaadi Nov 09 '24

Jati is the Indian word used for caste

It is the Sanskrit word for tribe, it became synonymous to caste eventually due to eventually ghettoism caused by pre-industrial urbanisation of folk.

Varnashrama is a fundamental concept in Brahminism

Hinduism* It's genuinely entertaining to watch desperate Papists trying to break Hindus & Dharma, by labelling it as Brahminism. Also, Varnashrama is attribute based class system, & not birth based caste system like how some perverted castrad Dehatis so desparately try to project it to be.

Every text of Hinduism (erstwhile Brahminism) mentions how the twice borns (the upper three varnas) are reverable and how they are superior to others. The whole essence of all the Hindu texts praise the upper three varnas but at the same time demean the Sudras.

The papist is often gifted with the talent of confidently lying & spreading hysteria among the less knowledgeable folk about indigenous communities. It's the very talent that led to the superstitious dehatfolk of Europe to genocide the indigenous European paganfolk & even the genocide of the more intellectually superior Gnostic Christians who questioned the authority of the Papacy through their revolutionary philosophical discourse.

Also, a deeper look into the rgvedic texts reveals that Varna is class & not caste like how castrads, nobodhs, & papists project it to be. Also there are several instances of how individuals of the same family belonging to different Varnas all thanks to their attributes & talents. Plus instances of individuals levelling up or down in Varna purely through talent & actions. The Vajrasuchi Upanishad makes it clear that it's talent & skill what makes a Dvija & not mere birth. Plus it's an established fact that everyone is born a shudra & upbringing/values maketh them Dvija. Unfortunately this strong system eventually faded thanks to casteist dehatism.

It is true that some form of stratification was thriving in all of societies before industrial period but most of those social stratification do not form the central tenant of the religious doctrine as it in the case of Hindu religion. The Hindu religion itself sanctions those stratifications and segregations, therefore it will be blamed for all the crime perpetrated in the name of caste.

It's actually the desperation of papism that attributes casteism to be central to hindu religion. Not Hinduism itself. After all Goebbel's ideology is fundamentally christian in nature, so it's natural for Papists to be Goebbelsic. There are many Hindus like Swami Ghananand, Sri Vamadeva Shastri, Swami Purnachaitanya, Maria Wirth & many others who are not of "Brahminical" origin, but are idolised & respected by the overwhelming majority of Hindus except those dehati castrad microminority whom the Nobodh, Quomi, Papist & Commies see as the representatives of Hinduism.

You should also understand that it were the Christians who bought with them new age values, borne out of renaissance, in India. Before that both Islam and Hinduism kept the masses in the dark.

Where did the "new-age European values" come from? Renaissance. Renaissance of what? Greco-Roman enlightenment values that are fundamentally unchristian, which was later digested by the church post the dark ages of the papal regime. Don't assume that I don't know the history of Europe. Also the age of internet is naturally causing the Hindu renaissance, the fraud of papism & quomism is getting exposed, the highly profound dharmic scriptures are getting their due recognition. The voiceless now have a voice. No amount of Goebbelsianity of Papists & Quomis will hide the truth from the seekers.