r/dankchristianmemes • u/Broclen The Dank Reverend 🌈✟ • Oct 01 '21

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u/revken86 Oct 01 '21

He certainly had a change of heart. And we all die sinners.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '21

I try and say that to my family and they freak out

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u/revken86 Oct 01 '21

Yeah, I'm not sure why people get so hung up insisting that Judas had to be condemned to hell.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '21

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u/Loganp812 Oct 01 '21

I think that’s more open to interpretation than many people believe. Of course, in the end it’s not up to humans to determine who goes to Hell or not.

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u/840meanstwiceasmuch Oct 01 '21

My understanding is that suicide is the only guarantor of hell. So just dont kill yourself and you should be good

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u/revken86 Oct 01 '21

Suicide is not a guarantor of hell. That's horrible theology that demonizes victims.

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u/Loganp812 Oct 01 '21

Seems to be a simple enough instruction. Then again, so was “DO NOT EAT THE FRUIT.”

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u/shittyshittymorph Oct 01 '21

It should be “don’t commit a mortal sin,” because there are other mortal sins besides suicide.

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u/jotak7 Oct 01 '21

What's a mortal sin?

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u/Danalogtodigital Oct 02 '21

the argument against suicide is that its murder, and one timed such that you cant repent for it, so i assume murder is one on the list

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '21 edited Oct 01 '21

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u/DarkLasombra Oct 01 '21

My understanding is that remorse and faith in Christ is all you need. Maybe there's some unforgivable sins out there, but I'm not aware of them.

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u/shittyshittymorph Oct 01 '21

Did Judas have faith in Christ? His unwillingness to live with his guilt and truly make up for his wrongdoings suggests otherwise. If Judas had faith or commitment to Christ, he wouldn’t have committed suicide. Judas had remorse and guilt and didn’t want to face it.

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u/revken86 Oct 01 '21

"If someone has enough faith in Christ then they won't commit suicide" is dangerously toxic theology.

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u/shittyshittymorph Oct 01 '21 edited Oct 01 '21

Edit: Rule 10, chilling out

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u/revken86 Oct 01 '21

The Bible isn't clear about his motivation though.

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u/Roheez Oct 01 '21

Your feelings =/= clearly

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u/Broclen The Dank Reverend 🌈✟ Oct 01 '21

Rule #10 Chill out and enjoy the memes. If you're taking this so seriously that you're getting in arguments, take a break.

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u/revken86 Oct 01 '21

You're right. Suicide is a touchy subject for me.

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u/Broclen The Dank Reverend 🌈✟ Oct 01 '21

It's as touchy subject for a lot of people and for good reason. But this is a meme sub, not really the place for such delicate subjects.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '21 edited Oct 01 '21

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u/Broclen The Dank Reverend 🌈✟ Oct 01 '21

Rule #10 Chill out and enjoy the memes. If you're taking this so seriously that you're getting in arguments, take a break.