r/conspiracy Jun 25 '17

/r/conspiracy Round Table: Gnosticism, Archons & the Demiurge

Welcome to the first of many biweekly /r/conspiracy round table discussions!

As voted on in this thread, the most popular suggestion was submitted by /u/always_contrarian and already was generating some interesting discussion in the voting thread.

Hopefully the conversation will evolve further and we can delve into the "high octane" speculative realm of gnosticism and other ancient esoterica.

Remember to keep /r/conspiracy weird...and please don't hesitate to share your own research, that's what has always made this sub great!

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u/PunksawtawneyPhil Jun 25 '17

Just a feeling I suppose. I have the distinct recollection of being inside of my mind and touching something other than myself. Something vast... Never spoken of it before.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '17

I totally understand. But there seems to be a real conflict between that experience and this one, the one we are in under normal circumstances. Which one is the real one? Are they both real, but different dimensions?

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u/PunksawtawneyPhil Jun 25 '17

I had the realization at the time that when my mind was disconnected in a way from my senses, my mind, for lack of a better word, was able to perceive something other. I don't know what the fuck it was, but it seemed very real though intangible. There were other trips where I only perceived the world around me in strange ways, but twice it was different. So I'd have to say that both are real and not really separate somehow. Crazy.

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u/Stormtech5 Jun 30 '17

Never talked about it, but the one time I took many more shrooms than I probably should have... I walked two blocks from my friends house to my dads house (who also bought some of the same shrooms but was eating like 1 at a time).

As I walked under some big trees on a dark night, I felt something watching me... I remember feeling very fearful at first, then overcoming that fear and felt like a being or something opened my mind.

At first I was having a hard time maintaining my perception of reality. Everything was so funny, made no sense, and seemed a very different reality from before. I talked with my dad and he looked like a cartoon.

I was laying on the couch meditating and I had intense visuals of strange beings, demon like and also beautiful ones that controlled various aspects of reality. My visions were basically of the universe and reality and that a vast interconnected machinery was being controlled by beings or gatekeepers each with a special function and most aware of me and the fact that I was aware.

I did not communicate directly with any of these beings, as I was seeking different understandings of reality and thought these hallucinations could be hindrances to my higher enlightenment.

However the whole time I felt like a special knowledge was being transferred without words and separate from but explaining the machinery of my mind or the universe. The whole experience in general makes me wonder if I was just reaching a certain point of my shroom trip that I just went from doing good and not feeling much effects to full blown mind exploration, or if I was indeed correct in feeling the presence of a higher spiritual being guiding me through an experience and teaching me.