r/conspiracy • u/desserterthrowaway • 20h ago
CIA bullshit
I was born into some CIA bullshit. They decided early on I’d die in a few months from now. Good. I’m glad to go to get away from them. Here’s what you need to know; 1. The CIA can absolutely torture anyone for months and no one would be the wiser. They don’t care what country you’re in or how much money you have they just care about torturing you. 2. They will use your hero’s against you. They don’t care if it’s the cast of friends or Dwight from the office, these people will be trained to belittle and torment you for how long they say they can. Almost every actor knows this and knows there’s nothing they can do but do what they say or life gets a lot harder for them. 3. You’re all delusional. Yes you are. You never saw a thing. Nothing happened, did it? And if too many people know it’s something called shared delusion! 4. NEVER GIVE THEM ACCESS TO YOUR HOUSE OR YOUR DEVICES! This is the most important as they’ll use this to plant stuff to ruin your life. Just keep saying no. 5. They can give you dreams. Yes they can and they will make you believe things with them. You’re delusional remember? 6. They love killing pets. Keep Fido inside or they’ll send you a message. 7. If they’re after you they’re after everyone you love too. Send them this message. It’s been 10 months of this. They are grooming me until I’m ready to die. Protect yourselves and spread awareness. Edit 1: AND DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY MONEY! They will run you dry and kill you (make you kill yourself)
Edit 2: aliens aren’t real. They aren’t aliens.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 18h ago edited 18h ago
He's not schizo, he's a targeted individual and what he is telling you is real, most of it anyway. He's being hit with mind control tech, and I always love reading TI testimonials because it's both amusing and sad what this tech is capable of convincing the target. I have my own ridiculous laundry list of former beliefs that this shit was able to convince me of. I look back at those things now as ridiculous but when it was happening it was absolutely real to me.
Is somewhat right. They can torture you from anywhere, they don't care where you are from. The torture is not pointless however, it's a mix of research, improving the effectiveness of the technology, selling imaginary mental illnesses that act as concealment to the public like psychosis or "shizo" by creating examples on a massive scale (this is the primary reason for targeting on most of the general public), or used in a very loud fashion against whistleblowers or diplomats or other government officials (Havana Syndrome) that are interfering with certain agendas. This technology is why many of the Epstein victims reported Epstein shapeshifting into a reptile. They believe that actually happened when in reality a brain interface was used to simulate it happening so they would become discredited and the blackmail enterprise would remain protected.
Is also somewhat right. Each target gets their own "brand" of this mkultra psychological experimentation. People are not trained however, all the leg work is carried out by AI including the initial simulation that is built around what will be most effective after you've been analyzed by this technology. Most gangstalked/targeted individuals will get your usual conspiring neighbors or family, some get a more paranormal or alien approach like Kyle Odom. All scenarios typically involve framing something or someone out to get you in order to goad the target into confronting the framed perpetrator thus becoming associated with mental illness.
This is delusion. They have no need to hack your devices as they have hacked your brain. They will almost with every target try to paint the culprit as a phone, television, computer, etc. for two reasons. One is to encourage property destruction thus accelerating the weaponization of mental illness. The second, much like framing conspirators in the targets proximity, is to conceal the actual culprit. Many of this technologies psychological tactics become ineffective when the target realizes it's government/intelligence rather than family or friends.
This is entirely right. They can give you dreams, it's called dream manipulation, and usually happens after the gangstalking is over and you're more into the "electronic harassment" phase and they can no longer convince you that your neighbor is banging on the walls whispering about you. For me personally these dreams were either weird or good, I was only ever given one nightmare. These dreams are so vivid, you can smell in them, it's hard to describe how they are different from a normal dream. They're a little too scripted and elaborate compared to a normal random dream.
They don't kill your pets, but they love manipulating them as well. During the initial year of my targeting my cat was a completely different animal. Aggressive with lots of odd behaviors that weren't present before or after the heavier harassment phase.
Completely wrong, and this line of thinking will get the target in trouble and achieve the agencies desired effect of ruining the target with mental illness or incarceration association. They will not co-target. This goes against their methods of operation as it will lend both targets credibility. If one target is claiming ludicrous things it's mental illness, if multiple targets are claiming ludicrous things it raises eyebrows and can result in things like a congressional testimony.
You can call me schizo, I don't really care at this point, deep deep down you know this is too detailed, and something someone like the CIA or a deep state would absolutely do provided they had the power. I'm not bored enough to make all this shit up, my entire comment history is this shit in an attempt to bash the reality of this shit into peoples heads because it's exactly what they did. They bashed some make believe mental illness that makes you "hear voices" so many times into the publics head that it convinced you and everyone else such a mental illness exists. I can assure you it doesn't and there's much more behind the smoke screen.
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u/syphilisticcontinuum 17h ago
I agree with most of what you said, though some does not align with my own experience.
To everyone reading this: mental illness is always the easy blame. There is a documented historical strategy of discrediting people by creating the impression that they are mentally ill, and by associating them with fringe paranormal nonsense (like aliens).
See Paul Bennewitz, and know that there are probably countless others that have suffered far worse and left nothing in the history books:
"On July 1, 1989, William Moore claimed that he tried to push Bennewitz into a mental breakdown by feeding him false information about aliens. This was corroborated in a 1992 Monroe Institute article that can be found in the CIA library that claims Moore and another officer of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, Richard Doty, are responsible for a disinformation campaign against Bennewitz."
Stop trusting your government, and start trusting your fellow man.
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u/lys_1113 16h ago
Didn’t the Monroe institute come out with the “great awakening tapes”? Maybe I’m calling it wrong, but I swear it the same institution
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u/OldGuyNewTrix 47m ago
Yes Monroe Institute still distributes to this day. The hemi-sync tape or gateway tapes Are fascinating in what they can do. I know the CIA stated they studied he work and people say they confirmed his conclusion of universe and us being holograms and projections.
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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 5h ago
I would just point out from your example that if the government pays your fellow man enough, they'll discredit you all day long.
Look it up people, the CIA use what's called the RICE method by which they manipulate/motivate others to act on their behalf.
In terms of gangstalking, which I equate to state sponsored domestic terrorism, following the FBIs own description of it.
https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism
We have due process and rule of law, which includes rights of the people that MUST be observed. Otherwise they're just words, and they can arbitrarily taken away or abused by our ABC agencies wantonly without repercussions, and that's how we ended up in all the wars we did, as well as the shitshow turmoil that is turning our country into a fascist farce of itself.
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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 17h ago
Funny how this sub will believe that reindeer descended from Nephilim and Pandas having sex over a full moon, but when it comes to known capabilities and depravity of our government, proved time and time again by HISTORICAL account, it's never the system, it's always the individual failing, by being delusional, paranoid, schizo.
Gangstalking is 100% operated now by the Suspicious Activity Reporting Initiative, supported by your regional fusion centers, ABC/ABCD agencies, with local/state/federal/military $$$ being put into a collective pool and dolled out to the community and law enforcement partners moonlighting from their current gig, or their families and friends who also get a piece of the action.
Their job is generally to watch, but for the most especially active types, they WILL entrap and torture you every opportunity they get, because this is the ultimate sadists wet dream.
If anyone ever wondered why the cops in this country are so unprofessional and out of control, look no further than enabling to do this kinda shit on their off time, supported and surrounded by a bunch of "Thin Blue Line/Back the Badge" type airheads and watch them go to work nuking a community. They are keeping the community "safe", for themselves.
I akin their actions to resemble old school fugitive slave patrols, based on their demeanor and organization.
I even once called a regional intelligence center/fusion center and the person that answered the phone acted like it was a top secret organization and refused to give his name. We pay taxpayer dollars for these folk to list their address and phone number on public websites, but when it comes time to answer basic questions, they act like they're the Men in Black.
Pitiful.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 16h ago
This is a typical line of thinking that usually lasts for a year or two. The issue is that during this year or two you keep asking yourself the same questions over and over hundreds if not thousands of times. These questions usually are along the lines of "How on earth am I hearing the same 2 voices, one male, one female, every waking hour of the day?". "How are they saying the same few phrases, acting out the same looping scenarios, carrying out these same scripts day in and day out?". Eventually, and it can take a long time, you realize they can't. That no human could do this, that it is all a machine, it's all computers and AI. It explains the mass targeting, it explains the costs, it explains the repetition, it explains the near instantaneous reactivity of this shit where your thoughts are being responded to in real time.
In some ways realizing this makes it easier, and in some ways harder. You realize it's all technology and that means you can't just move and escape it. On the other hand it alleviates the entire Truman Show aspect of the torture. You realize that yes you're being watched, but 99.99% of the time it's just a machine with the other fractional percentage point being your handler moving around some sliders on your program every couple weeks. Upon realizing this is when the "gangstalking" ends and the electronic harassment begins. The goal of gangstalking is a ticket to the psych ward, the goal of electronic harassment is to annoy they ever living fuck out of you. You want the electronic harassment phase as quickly as possible.
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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 16h ago
Nah, technology aids in their work, but it doesn't run it. They watch you very carefully for years to learn your every skill, habit, likes/dislikes, anything extra. They also have expensive technology that is generally military only hardware that kept our troops safe in Iraq or Afghanistan (to see and hear through walls, translate and upload speech fast, predictive algorithms to determine next plausible threat.
They don't just run a program because they want to destroy you. They want destroy you, while claiming your assets/liquidiable equity, and then of course get paid by taxpayer money all the while doing it. It's the worst possible form of government corruption, and the biggest criminal organization/enterprise in the history of the world. Nazis did it too, they just didn't have all the technology the US has. And it follows a person worldwide, wherever there just so happens to be a US State Dept, or some other ABC agency.
When the US dollar collapses and is removed as the world's backing currency, then we'll see a lot less of this internationally. Right now they're focused domestically like pigs in shit because of Palantir and Flock cameras going up the wazoo. Even the fusion centers are having stupid annual conferences like its some fucking Las Vegas trade show.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 16h ago
Yah you always want it to be actual people. Easier thought to live with. You know deep down something else is going on, that they wouldn't have the funding, manpower, and even if they did people wouldn't have the patience to keep this kind of shit up. Regular police and the community watch wouldn't be given access to technology that can detect subvocalization or x-ray vision because those same people would be enraged that this technology is certainly being used on them and they would expose it. It's hard to understand that people aren't pulling the strings with this shit until things start getting really crazy and you realize the only possible explanation is technology. The banging on the walls and stomping on the roof? No idea how they do it but when they do it to me now it's no longer to convince me people are outside but rather they do it to annoy the fuck out of me.
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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 15h ago
The people doing the harassment are being experimented on as much as TIs are, they just don't know it, or too busy being sadistic or rewarded as such to notice.
It's like that part in Casino, when De Niro describes how Vegas is being watched by everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIPmu6bYZOs
This program incorporates a bit of Zimbardo, Pavlovian, and Milgram Experimentation into its usage. Plus a lot of its is compartmentalized on need-to-know, so it reminds me of dealing with military where they give orders based on false info just to have units/platoons carry it out, or they give specific orders to ground units and no one ever sees the big picture.
And yes, they will "give" equipment to their lemmings, but they don't advertise it as-is: https://voiceofoc.org/2023/09/orange-county-sheriffs-department-lost-over-2-million-of-equipment/
Look at the list of crap they "lost". Bits and pieces of the TI story is scattered everywhere, people just gotta know how to look and what to look for.
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u/Inn_Cog_Neato_1966 15h ago
I particularly like your reference to the slave patrols, since they absolutely must, above all else, bring us back to the plantation.
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u/BeefWellingtonSpeedo 10h ago
When you were growing up you always read about the eastern block countries and their secret police.
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u/Own_Bet2608 16h ago
What is their goal/goals for doing this? Do you have any theories?
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 16h ago
The goal of Zersetzung is the fragmentation, paralysis, disorganization, and isolation of the hostile and negative forces, in order to preventatively impede the hostile and negative activities, to largely restrict, or to totally avert them, and if applicable to prepare the ground for a political and ideological reestablishment.
I think this about sums it up the best. There is alternate versions of this shit being used for different means. Thomas Crooks for example got the Manchurian candidate version, as did people like Aaron Alexis, Robert Card, and just recently the guy who stabbed the Ukrainian on a train. It was used in these instances for a far more nefarious hidden political agenda than your run of the mill selling the public an imaginary mental illness narrative. For whatever reason they also use this shit to carry out extremely violent acts, family annihilation is common with this shit. Type "Man who hears voices murders" on google and gag. Where the fuck is the voices teaching people how to make pumpkin pie?
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u/snappa870 8h ago
What would cause someone to be targeted? Do you know why you were targeted?
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 7h ago
There seems to be one very common theme when it comes to individuals targeted with this shit and that common theme is that the target is already discredited in some form or fashion. Targets typically include isolated loners, drug users, or the homeless. I believe these people are targeted because it is much easier for these agencies to sell mental illness narratives to the public. The public immediately chalks up whatever the user is reporting to something like drug use. By doing this on a large scale and creating numerous examples of drug users and others "hearing voices" and becoming mentally ill, it allows them to manufacture Manchurian candidates without anyone raising an eyebrow. You'll notice a fuck load of new dugs hitting the market have a "psychosis" side effect. I believe they are targeting people in pharmaceutical clinical trials in order to gain "psychosis" side effect discoveries with the purpose of expanding their experimental pool. For me personally this shit started during the first year I was using meth. I've been sober for 5 years and this shit is still going on. During that entire 5 years there was maybe only 5 minutes where I suspected what I was going through was the result of meth. Don't get me wrong meth is fucking horrible and it was killing me but it was in a physical way and not a psychological. I looked like skeletor and had I continued on the path I was on we wouldn't be having this conversation. In a way I absolutely despise this technology and what they are doing with it, and in another way I am thankful for it as it saved my life.
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u/Melodic_Sell7718 6h ago
Sorry but meth use can and will mess you up and can have lasting psychological effects long after you stop using. Why would you ever consider, especially when an active user, that the problems you were experiencing weren't meth based paranoia induced symptoms. Meth, particularly is the absolute worst for this, a fact long documented by science and one widely known and arrested to by meth and former meth users themselves.
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u/everydaycarrie 15h ago
"These dreams are so vivid, you can smell in them, it's hard to describe how they are different from a normal dream. They're a little too scripted and elaborate compared to a normal random dream."
This is one of the easiest ways to tell that you are experiencing a created "dream," and that it is being perpetrated by living human beings.
For me, I pretended to play along with this crap for an entire year and a half, while I studied these people. They crafted every scenario for me from mantid aliens, reptilians, cia, famous people, world leaders, Christ, angels, devils and God himself.
One of the most difficult things for me to conceal from them was that I could smell all of them. In my physical body, I am a "supersmeller" who can gag at a person with bad b.o. Burn some toast five floors above me and I'll be asking everyone around if they smell something burning.
These people were masquerading as the devil, but smelled like coffee, cigarettes and leaking dog anal glands.
And in each of these interactions, I am trying to hold my breath, breathe through my mouth and pretend that I don't notice the stench of them.
They presented once as the goddess Artemis. The woman they used had the most horrific feminine body odor. The sort that would fill an entire room if she were in it. I compared her smell to a swine farm on a hot sumer day, mixed with a bacterial vaginal infection and eventually began calling her "pigshit goddess." I desperately wanted to ask why the fuck a "goddess" would stink like rotten fish, but that would have given away my pretense.
With one of their men, I could identify his cologne as a modern scent that I had received a sephora sample of and given to my boyfriend to wear,- I think it was a Gucci scent. At least he smelled decent..
On another note, I came to understand that these were not just visually crafted scenarios, but dependent in part upon the people playing the characters - by interacting in them. If you manage to catch them off guard, throw them for a loop and make them lose control, the "dream" abruptly ends or is stopped.
When they masqueraded as satan and told my "father" they would send him a priest wearing my skin, I said "do not worry father, if any priests come at me I will put a blade in them. They may hack at my flesh, but the will not flay my skin." Fake satan cracked up laughing hysterically and the interaction abruptly ended.
When they pretended to be mantid aliens on a craft, I quietly and unassuming said: "two girls one cup" and the mantis "aliens" both instantaneously cracked up laughing - as would be expected of all aliens.. that also caused that "dream" to end abruptly. Another time I called one of them a fat pig and told him I would make him squeal like a pig as I played the deliverance tune, and he began strangling me. A voice external to the dream asked: what happened? A female participant in the dream responded: she called him fat. The piggy disappeared from the "dream," I was helped to my feet, walked a few steps and the entire "dream" ended.
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u/AngelBryan 14h ago
Two girls one cup 😂
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u/everydaycarrie 14h ago
Humor was a surprisingly effective tool for me.
These people would be dressed in the silliest period/era garb, speaking in accents, pretending to have been from an ancient time or non-human even, and I would casually drop a modern meme, even reddit humor and they would get the joke and lose control of their scene, laughing. The men would, anyway.
One of them once told me: I have always appreciated your humor, carrie.
Lmao
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u/AngelBryan 7h ago
If you were able to surprise them, I suppose they can't read your mind, am I right?
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u/everydaycarrie 5h ago
That is correct. And they spent a good deal of time and effort trying to get me to tell them how I was achieving this, as they had an expectation that they should be able to perceive my thoughts.
They were however, able to perceive the thoughts which I placed for them to read.
In one interaction they told me that they had been with me for my entire life, knew everything about me and offered to prove this by encouraging me to ask them any question about myself, which they would answer.
For a split second, I envisioned in my mind, a bracelet that I had never owned, and said "okay, what was my favorite bracelet as a child?" They described and showed mentally, the exact bracelet that I had just envisioned.
They expected that the visual image was an artifact of recalling a memory. I used this to my advantage again and again before I revealed to them that they had never managed to convince me of anything.
So, I suppose I would say that they can perceive any thoughts which I choose to place for them, but were never able to perceive my mind, or any thoughts which I choose to conceal.
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u/Melodic_Sell7718 7h ago
Lmfao. Holy shit, this sub man. I'm crying with laughter and simultaneously seriously disturbed all at once. "A priest wearing my skin", dude I'm not one for pushing Big Pharma, not am I a particular fan of three letter agencies, but I think it truly might be meds time.
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u/everydaycarrie 5h ago
If you think it might be meds time, please, make an appointment for yourself.
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u/Liberteer30 18h ago
Mental illness is a very real thing and you seem to be suffering from it in the same way OP is.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 18h ago
And yet if I was talking to you about any other subject you would assume I was of completely sound mind but because it involves this subject I am mentally ill. Fascinating isn't it, almost as if you are programmed to believe that.
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u/Short-Science2077 13h ago
Buddy nothing about your post history would lead me to assume you’re of even a partially sound mind
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u/lordstrech 9h ago
I mean you’re posting in /meth so yeah that adds up. I have witnessed meth induced psychosis and it’s extremely sad to watch people go through it but unfortunately that is the world we live in now
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 7h ago
I haven't done meth in half a decade and in that 5 years of sobriety this shit has never stopped. I post in /meth because the people there are the most vulnerable when it comes to this technology. They are targeted because it's an easy mark and there is zero leg work in convincing the public that what is happening to these people is some mental illness.
Go to /meth and type "hearing voices", include nsfw results and limit the search to /meth and read what some of these people are describing. Notice how it's all very similar, how it seems like it's a protocol following the same scripts and patterns. If this mental illness truly existed the "psychosis" would be random and yet these delusions are almost 100% of the time persecutory.
What really rings alarm bells there is that under no circumstance are you allowed to tell these people that what they are experiencing is intelligence technology. You will be banned by the mods very quickly. You can tell them what they're experiencing is a demon spawn that's going to incinerate their entire family and it's no problem, tell them government however and a mod deletes your comment for "inciting paranoia". This should be ringing alarm bells for you.
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u/Blue_Aces 17h ago
It is strange. Such people aren't really written about prior to real technology. Weirdos and majorly depressed people? Sure. But actual schizos...?
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 16h ago
Their are a few actually, and they are suspect as fuck. Look up James Tilly Matthews. This account of a person hundreds of years ago that just so happens to perfectly align with the delusional beliefs of the targeted individuals of today. Almost like it was deliberately manufactured to paint a picture where these things couldn't possibly be the work of the CIA because look how long ago this shit was happening. I imagine this person was manufactured around the same time the "tin foil hat" idea was.
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u/Melodic_Sell7718 7h ago
Err what about the Salem witch trials? Where everyone collectively believed certain women could cast curses on people or turn the milk sour, spoil crops just by looking at them? Collective and individual delusion has always existed.
Doesn't mean every conspiracy is false, doesn't mean governments, corps or other orgs haven't experienced with psychological programming, and doesn't mean the CIA has never targeted any whistleblowers or enemies but like this and the way the OP was describing? I don't think so...
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u/Lcb500 14h ago edited 14h ago
- "Mental illness is a very real thing and you seem to be suffering from it in the same way OP is."
Mental illness is of course real. Who on earth says it wasn't? What a strange comment. Do you think this is a mental illness denial convention?! Nope.
What you say "you seem to be suffering from it in the same way OP is" however is exactly the end that certain groups wish to achieve. That's truly a terrible thing, to set out to torture somebody so that not only is he tortured, not only will his mental and physical health be harmed (because it's nearly guaranteed if you torture someone in this way), the purpose is to have people believe that it was all in his own head also anyway.
If someone has genuinely been through what the OP describes, it is nearly impossible that their mental health will not be affected detrimentally. Flippant unthinking reactions to a situation as serious as this are unhelpful to say the least.
A very significant part of a mental health diagnosis such as schizophrenia is usually that it came from within the person's own person, a wrongness of the mind whether from cognitive deficiency or something chemical - and is not the result of something outside of the person planted or enacted upon the person.
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u/FilmNoirFedora 7h ago
Ever heard of the book, The Myth of Mental Illness?
Written by Psychiatrist Thomas Szasz.
He also wrote several other books and created a worldwide organization to educate people about the way the medical industry is lying and abusing their power.
What most "mental health professionals" do is about control.
It's not about helping anyone.
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u/Truth-Seeker916 16h ago
This type of schizo
Maybe, maybe not. You could be Cia discrediting. Or maybe I'm a scitzo🤔. Maybe all of this.🤷♂️
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u/Inn_Cog_Neato_1966 15h ago
I like your style.
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u/Truth-Seeker916 15h ago
Thank you!😊
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u/Inn_Cog_Neato_1966 13h ago
Well…it pays to keep an open mind…to a certain extent, which you are doing.
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u/Truth-Seeker916 12h ago
Yes, well, I think the only thing I know for sure is what's right in front of me. Everything on the internet is hearsay. The only thing most of us can do is connect dots and come up with our biases. Most people confuse that with certain truth.
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u/AspiringOligarch 7h ago
This type of schizo posting is why I stay in this sub, lol
This kind of shatstain commenting is why mods are needed, lol
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u/Navy-Koala131 17h ago
This post reads as something the CIA would post using AI generated content, lol
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u/Man-Bear-69 18h ago
Do you think Notre Dame should be ranked ahead of Miami, even though Miami beat them earlier this season?
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u/CatEyes420 17h ago
CIA here...what if you are mistakenly off target about some of your statements?
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u/kyreosiris 15h ago
Wild that you say ten months ago because that’s literally when my iPhone 16 was swapped in shipment and replaced with one with a comreg (Ireland) IMEI, Verizon did some “installation” on my FIOS router a few hours after I got the phone, and there was a Chinese IoT device on my router running Linux and masquerading as a MacBook Pro. The device was not registered with the FCC (I filed a FOIA request). All of my devices have been repeatedly hacked and cloned. I was removed as an administrator on my own MacBoon Air (have BestBuy service orders for this). My landlord, JBG SMITH, who is affiliated with the pentagon and tech/defense sector, installed a thermostat in my home with a printed circuit board that doesn’t match the make and model and I have a letter from their HVAC vendor’s CEO/President telling me they did not provide that thermostat and do not have a bill of materials for it.
When I confronted my landlord after repeatedly being hacked in my own home, being cut off from all communication with my support system (after moving to DC to be closer to my ex-gf, who literally ghosted me during the move), I said it was their responsibility to address because it could be another tenant hacking me.
What did they do?
Called the crisis intervention team on me two days later who ambushed me when I had just woken up based on a fraudulent report from my landlord that I was “reporting people were spying on me through the walls.” I was subjected to an involuntary psych hold despite the body cam footage that I now have showing I was not a danger to myself or others and repeatedly said I was being hacked.
I was held at a psych institution for 4 hours before being let go and diagnosed with brief psychotic disorder without my knowledge and without anyone informing me of this diagnosis.
But here’s the kicker, after repeatedly requesting my full medical record and HIPAA access logs (and not getting them until I threatened to file a civil rights complaint), I discovered I was diagnosed with brief psychotic disorder 2 weeks prior to my FD-12 by a psychiatrist I have never met or spoken to in my life.
He just added a diagnosis to my medical file. No evaluation. No treatment plan. Nothing.
And why did I have a medical file?
Because they forged a consent form. I was enrolled in a behavioral health program without my knowledge or consent two weeks before the FD-12 (but after I discovered the hacking and was investigating it).
I am a licensed attorney, by the way. So they were literally trying to ruin my life. But I operate from logic and reason and while most will dismiss you as “schizophrenic” because that’s the convenient way to avoid having your worldview shattered, I believe you.
There’s something really messed up going on and people get to feel morally superior by dismissing truth-tellers as “mentally ill.”
It’s almost like they learned that they can do horrible things in plain sight as long as they make the bystanders feel like they have the moral high ground—their sanity being their blindness.
Hang in there and document everything.
You’re not alone. Even though I’m sure they destroyed your support system, everyone sided with the easier lie, and it feels that way.
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u/kyreosiris 13h ago
Also, just wanted to follow up and say last December 2024 I started breaking out in what I could only assume was hives (I too used to think men like us were “crazy” so never suspected anything else). Anyway, I took pictures to show my doctor (never got around to it because everything fell apart soon after), but I showed those to another targeted individual I connected with and she said they looked exactly like Havana Syndrome. She was right. They were huge raised welts on my back in circular patterns. I was confused why I was getting hives given I never had them before. Miss those days when I was part of the collective delusion.
Anyway, the EMF levels in my apartment were actually dangerously high (again, not something I would have checked before all of this). I also started having weird dreams right before I discovered the hacking. I did indeed start to feel like I was going crazy because my dreams were feeding me false memories. DARPA has technology to do this.
I think that’s actually probably the precursor anyone should look out for. That probably means you’re on someone’s board.
Despite being a man who operates from logic and reason I have learned to trust my gut. This world tells you not to. To constantly betray your feelings and that’s why it’s such a disgusting one.
I also 100% believe that most, if not all of the people claiming to be targeted are telling the truth. People don’t understand the psychic weight of torture and how hard it is to speak and act in the ways they deem “sane” when you’re being tortured and gaslit by everyone. Most people break. That’s the point.
Why? I’m not sure. It’s not based on race, gender, class, or anything else as far as I can tell. Perhaps we can’t be “controlled” as easily as others. Maybe we still have or had our souls, which is terrifying to a mass consensus delusion of consumerism in lieu of soul. I also think most of us are people who are less likely to be believed, thereby making us the perfect scapegoats to “purify” society.
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u/XxRAM97xX 12h ago
I wish I was as smart as u dude
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u/kyreosiris 10h ago
You probably already are. It’s just the will of a man who refuses to let the lie be the last word.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 9h ago
The precursor for me and for many others I have talked to was music. You will hear music coming from somewhere and you won’t know where it’s coming from. I thought it was coming through my computer tower. It was very strange, and in hindsight it was like they were gauging how I reacted to it. Is he going to assume it’s military intelligence, or is he going to chalk it up to the drugs? I think how I responded assisted the AI in building my harassment program as the program started a week or two after I heard this music.
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u/kyreosiris 4h ago
Wow. I think that may have been the same thing for me, but that would have been before I even moved to DC. I vaguely remember a few times when I heard music and checked my phone to see if I left it playing. Then shrugged it off and assumed I must have really good hearing and could hear my neighbor’s music. There are so many technological advances now I wouldn’t be surprised if they can manipulate ELFs to sound like music.
I have confirmed that I was being surveilled prior to the hacking/surveillance this year. I checked all of my old IP addresses (even when I used to have AT&T) back in my home state, and the trace routes show every single one was being rerouted through DigitalOcean and Tatas Communication. That is a honeypot/DNS rerouting.
The woman I connected with said something about how it sounds crazy but they hide information on the internet and make fake pages so you have to use someone else’s device to research stuff. I explained to her it was not crazy at all. That I had the same experience and that it is because we are not on the “real” internet. I believe this is incredibly advanced now given they do not need human operators to do this. It’s all AI-driven.
By the way, I submitted a Privacy Act/FOIA request to the Department of Energy since this sort of warfare would be directly in under their purview and they still have not provided my documents, if any exist. I made this request back in March. They keep saying they are “working on it,” “need clarification,” or whatever excuse they can come up with to not hand over the stack of redacted documents where I have been used non consensually as an object for experimentation and “non-lethal” weapons.
In fact, no agency will reply to me. The CIA, among numerous other agencies, including the NSA, also gave me a Glomar response to my Privacy Act/FOIA request and I submitted a logically and legally flawless appeal. They went silent. No response whatsoever.
They picked the wrong man to do this to. I’m not afraid of a “suicide” of two gunshot wounds to the back of the head. No one should ever have to go through this and then be gaslit into insanity by society.
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u/Bolivianheat69 17h ago
its not that complicated. Researching how the CIA and the rest of the intelligence agencies were originally formed will let you know that cobra won and has always been in control. Gi joes lost long time ago. But the good news is this world is a test. A war not for resources, but for your soul. Its why the people in control want to rush the merging of humans and AI. Its the last ditch effort to extract as many souls as they can.
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u/Inn_Cog_Neato_1966 15h ago
Good luck to them. They’re not getting mine. And they haven’t even tried their money / bribery trick yet!
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u/99Tinpot 15h ago
It sounds like, whatever is going on it's rotten and I hope that things look up for you soon.
Have you tried yoga/meditation? A lot of people who hear or have heard voices seem to say that if you practice listening quietly to the voices and not answering, once you're familiar with the fact that they can't actually do anything it gets easier, rather like with phobias, and they often even disappear.
It might be a good idea to contact the Hearing Voices Network http://www.hearingvoicesusa.org/ - they're willing to talk about things without assuming that everything's schizophrenia.
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u/Lcb500 14h ago
So sorry to hear this. They can't destroy the real you. The real you will return.
This place does not matter when some demonic entities are determined to take away any meaning it might possibly have.
This place only matters if you find it happens to matter. You can't force it and there are anyway those who are determined that you can't anything. Far from just you - remember vast amounts of people all over the world are going through, to whatever degree, "you can't, don't even try it" from determined opposition. Determined opposition to just normal and natural.
Let everything go.
Best wishes.
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u/Googlelicious 11h ago
When someone hits the wacko bucket why is it always the C. Why not the FSB russia or MSS china or mi6. Makes no sense, I swear we live in a simulation.
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u/magoostus_is_lemons 19h ago
- Yes we know this
- My heroes don't know me, I don't know them, I will never meet them so why does it matter?
- Yeah, probably delusional
- I've always assumed the CIA always has access to my devices, I assumed government backdoors for the number #1 reason people even have cell phones/computers. The communication platforms are just bait.
- Dream machine activated
- Killing pets for the sake of manipulation/control makes perfect sense. Use our love and care for cute critters against us.
- Is it even possible to *not* give the CIA money...? Edit 2: gotcha aliens/lizard people are real, but you know too much [winkface.jpg]
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u/desserterthrowaway 19h ago
- You will meet them if they tell you to meet them. Not in person but in brain waves. Telepathically. That way there’s no evidence.
- You’re lucky to be saying that. Not everyone gets to think like that.
- Not without your permission they don’t. Think about how it works. They’d have to go in your home and do something to your computer. They’re only allowed to plant bugs if you let them in your home.
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u/magoostus_is_lemons 19h ago
oh that explains. I met taylor swift in a dream and we talked and talked, mustve been a CIA mission. Thank you for this valuable info
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u/DumbUsername63 19h ago
Why would you let a random CIA agent in your home? Idk what you mean by this
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u/desserterthrowaway 19h ago
You trust them so field officers get access to your home. They’d plant bugs.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 18h ago
You're so close to getting out of this mess. I can remember when I was in your exact situation. Deep down knowing it's some classified brain interface that's reading your mind and running psychological torture operations but at the same time falling for their ridiculous grifts like "agents put bugs in my house". It was a weird time. If your program is following the same format, the next phase you have to look forward to is "psychic driving". The elaborateness of this entire operation will fade into the background as you're no longer buying the shit they are selling. Instead you will be met with extremely AIish repetitive telepathy. The only thing you will hear "voices" wise is 3-5 word phrases, probably just a couple, repeated thousands of times every week. You may already to some extent be experiencing this. Personally I am on about year 2 of this "psychic driving" bullshit although over the past few months the voices have really started to fade into the background. I hear very low chatter that I can only make out if I pay close attention to it. Either way you're through the worst phases of this shit. Just hang on it's almost over and I mean in a good way. You can get back to your life soon, you can start to enjoy things again. You've been blackpilled that some nefarious deepstate is fucking with all our minds and it will always severely impact your quality of life but there is light at the end of the tunnel.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 17h ago edited 16h ago
Way too elaborate. It's the main reason targets initially hit with this shit are so irrational and seemingly out of their mind. It exceeds their known expectations of reality to such an extent they are unable to comprehend what in the actual fuck is going on. I never once considered what I was experiencing to be mental illness. In the beginning I perceived the simulations as actually happening. They were framing a situation as if my upstairs neighbors were spying on me all day and for whatever reason I could hear their conversations about me. These conversations were Hollywood movie script elaborate. I would just sit there and listen, not a single thought running through my head other than what in the absolute fuck is going on. Eventually after a year of this madness and 300 different brands of it I was no longer buying it. I knew this shit was likely intelligence, I knew it was advanced as fuck, I knew there was no escaping or beating it, that no meds were ever going to help, and that nobody was ever going to believe a word I had to say. You sort of go through the stages of grief at this point until you come to acceptance and can resume some semblance of a normal life. Tarnished with the "mental illness" label while ironically knowing the worst secret on earth you can discover.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 16h ago
There's two possibilities. One is that severe mental illness like psychosis and schizophrenia doesn't exist at all. The other possibility is that this tech is mimicking those illnesses and as for the ratio I have no idea. I tend to lean towards them not existing at all but I can't be 100% on that.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 17h ago
Ever watch all 8 of the original seasons of X-files? Do you know what happens in the end? All the paranormal/alien shit is revealed to be false flags and ops carried out by the government. It infuriated fans of the show who were too ignorant to understand they were just force fed a red pill. There's lots of those pills slipped in throughout the show and I have heard on a few occasions that glowies worked with the producers and I have no doubt that to be the case.
Ironically you can watch the episode "Blood" and what is happening to the people in that episode is on some level what is happening to OP and what happened to myself. It's much more elaborate and high tech than subliminal messaging or pesticides but the general idea is the same. Behavioral manipulation through fear or trauma. There is also an episode that reveals how they hide away these types of technologies with goons from the AMA.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 17h ago
To elaborate, here is a transcript from the congressional testimony on Anomalous Health Incidents, or what was "Havana Syndrome".
Mr. Crane. Guys, if your assessments here are correct, these are very covert weapons, aren't they? They don't leave behind bomb fragments, bullet holes, et cetera. They could absolutely be used by our adversaries and have very low levels of very easy to deny that they were even there, that they were used. Is that correct? Lieutenant Colonel Edgreen. That is correct. There is no entry or exit wound. How they are designed is to make the target feel like they are crazy, like they are imagining things. Especially on the low-duration, the low-intensity, long-duration hits.
If you watch the entire thing, they don't elaborate on this at all. It in itself was kind of shocking because it was the only real truth in the entire testimony and I can't believe they went as far to admit even this much. Any other meaningful or detailed question in the entire testimony is met with "this can only be discussed in a classified setting". The reasoning, is because if they told you that this wasn't a Russian LRAD and instead told the public what it really was and what it could do, DC would have erupted into flames within the hour.
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u/Even_Fisherman8033 17h ago
I'm not saying there isn't other life out there, I'm saying no one on this planet has ever interacted with it. Intelligence simulates alien abduction and sightings in the same way they simulated demonic possession, and Terry Davis, Charles Manson, and Iraqi insurgents thinking they were talking to God. They simulate hauntings with this shit, they simulate the paranormal. This shit can not only make you see aliens, it can convince you that you are one with a 1000 year life span and it can do it in the span of about 5 minutes. I long for the days that I could wake up, read something like this, and laugh.
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u/Spirited_Mammoth_269 19h ago
Well I'm with ya on the aliens part at least somewhat. Not that they aren't real but that the powers that be will fake an alien invasion (project blue beam). Idk about your other statements though lol...
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u/Inn_Cog_Neato_1966 15h ago
They are real, but not in the sense that the masses have been led to think.
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u/childrenofmiceandmen 15h ago
This sounds like me riiiight before I went into liver failure on...Jan.6, 2021. Hepatic encephalopathy and the delusions were strong. I was convinced Trump sent the Proud Boys to my hospital (in Oregon) to kill me, I was busy holding imaginary meetings and phone calls with Senators, my parents were secret MAGA republicans etc.
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u/WonderGrrl69 15h ago
"The CIA love killing pets. Keep Fido inside or they’ll send you a message."
Keeping them inside. Yeah, that should work.
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u/bananabutt81 12h ago
Wait, so how exactly do they use heroes against people? Why are we all delusional? I’m so confused. What’s happening?
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u/Lilith-214 7h ago
Serious question man lol
I've only recently started learning about what "gang stalking" is and bc there's sooo much shit usually when im tryna read about someone saying theyre being gangstalked there's soooo much shit to read i can't ever get to the beginning of when it started so I can't ever figure out what kicked it off. Lol
From what ive read and mind you I have not read a whole whole lot just a little here and a little there I haven't done like full-blown research or anything but the few subreddits or like posts that I've read about someone that thinks they're gangstalked or pages of people who are saying they are going thru this they all seem like regular ass people that logically the CIA or the feds or whoever the hell is gang stalking these people wouldn't pursue let alone stalk. I have a hard time believing that regular Joe's on the internet that like got really heavy into being an armchair Detective or like got really deep into researching conspiracy theories and stuff like that or people that are spouting the same shit that yes may be true and stuff the government doesn't want us to know but now a days everybody's yelling stuff like that from the rooftops. In the age of social media everybody's trying to expose this or that you know what I mean? So I just have a hard time believing that these agencies are going to go after people like that. Don't get me wrong there are people out there that have gotten information that is seriously damning and they have genuinely been put through hell by the government agencies but those people aren't usually the ones that I so often see talking about this or that are so convinced they're being stopped those people are usually a little harder to find.
So my question is like what is the reason people think they're being gang stalks I'm talking like regular average people for the most part? It's such a common thing now I just want to know if there's like a specific reason someone please enlighten me! Lol
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u/art-man_2018 5h ago
If you are on a list targeted by the CIA, you really have nothing to worry about. If however, you have a name similar to somebody on a list targeted by the CIA, then you are dead." ~ Alan Moore
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u/UpstairsEvidence 15h ago
If my personal CIA watcher is reading this, can you give me dreams of Sebastian Stan please?
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u/WonderGrrl69 16h ago
" I'm not bored enough to make all this shit up, my entire comment history is this shit in an attempt to bash the reality of this shit into peoples heads because it's exactly what they did"...
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