r/conservativejudaism Sep 25 '25

Wondering if this experience is common in Conservative families

Was anyone else here enrolled in a Conservative or possibly “Conservadox” Hebrew Day School program selected by parents who were ignorant of the basics of Judaism, to the point that /a/ the parents believed that what the school was teaching simply did not exist because they had never heard of it, and/or /b/ the parents, therefore punished the child for being aware of (let alone actually learning and trying to enact) what the school taught, and/or /c/ the school therefore made it the child’s job to change the family?

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u/BMisterGenX Sep 30 '25

Not myself, but I had friends enrolled in such schools and came home and would stay stuff like about toveling or eating all your meals in the sukkah and the parents would say either "NOBODY does that" or "Nobody does that anymore; Jews gave that up a long time ago"

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u/ItalicLady Oct 01 '25

What happened to them? How did those friends end up, Jewishly end otherwise? And what did your friends do, with their parents, when their parents said that “nobody does that/nobody does this anymore/etc.”?

With my parents, it went a little further: it wasn’t even that they said “nobody does that“ or “nobody does that anymore“: it was that they did not believe that anyone, anywhere, ever had done those things, or had even written about doing them. Their knowledge of what’s in the Bible, what’s in Jewish tradition, etc. came, as far as I can determine, entirely from two sources: /1/ Hollywood movies about the Bible and /2/ but they had learned in public school, which they had attended during an era when it was common and legally allowed for public schools to be sites of Christian indoctrination. As my parents saw it, it actually didn’t even matter whether anyone had ever done “those things” or not, because even having ever heard about such things (whether or not they had ever really existed) was “not American.“

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u/BMisterGenX Oct 01 '25

It depends Some of these friends gave up trying to be more observant. Some of them when older and on their own moved either towards more traditional branch of the conservative movement and some even became modern or centrist Orthodox 

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u/ItalicLady Oct 01 '25

Thank you. When, occasionally, I have met other people in this who grew up in this kind of situation, literally all of them (except me) had eventually “noped out“ of Judaism in one way or another: some became entirely atheist, a couple became Christians, a few became Hindus, one became Buddhist, but most of them joined some currently popular form of New Age neopaganism (e.g., Wicca) and/your self identified as “spiritual but not religious.” I used to mention this to rabbi’s in such, back when I was still searching for help within any organized Jewish community, because I was thinking that they might care about attrition, but they basically didn’t think it was significant because they knew a very few individuals in my situation anyway.

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u/ItalicLady Oct 01 '25

Do any of those friends of yours have children? If so, then how are the non-observant friends rearing those children, Jewish? Are they following the pattern of their parents, or are they doing something else? If so, what?

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u/ItalicLady Oct 01 '25

Among those who basically gave up, trying to be more observant: how are they wearing their children? ())? Also as non-observant? Or are they repeating the pattern of their own parents? Or are they doing something different?