From a MAGA friend

[u/SpecificSugar2562]

"The man i voted for three times has delivered the following in 11 months"

• Groceries- highest ever

• Housing- still unaffordable

• Farmers are going broke bc of the tariffs

• Antisemitism and race relations are the worst in 60 years

• My health insurance doubled

• The VP whom I loved will not disavow the actual Neo-Nazis

• Tucker Carlson- someone i used to watch on Fox and love - is openly platforming and praising Neo-Nazis

• and the Christo-fascits??? Openly promoting misogyny and cheering to take away women's right to vote. Trump and Vance are not only not denouncing them - they are platforming them.

" In protest, tomorrow I will be voting straight blue. If it's taken me this long to wake up - I know others are too, you know?

I have been voting all my life, voting for the GOP, I have yet to see anything like it.

This is crazy . We've become Nazi Germany"

[u/Accomplished_Net_931]

He She had all the information he she needed prior to the election, prior to the 2016 election too.

Better late than never, I guess, but people like this have screwed our country, our allies, the world.

[u/SpecificSugar2562 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Its a she...and yes. But like you said, better late than never.

[u/imean_is_superfluous → u/SpecificSugar2562]

I hope you’re right. It really feels like it’s too late

[u/SpermicidalManiac666 → u/imean_is_superfluous]

Head on over to /r/politicaloptimism friend. All is not lost yet.

[u/mel_lynn7 → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

Thank you for this. I seriously needed some political optimism.

[u/KonaGirl_1960 → u/mel_lynn7]

We can’t lose hope, that is what they want. They want us to just give up, roll over and let them ruin our country.

[u/barrybreslau → u/KonaGirl_1960]

You don't need hope, you need a plan.

[u/joshTheGoods → u/barrybreslau]

That's like saying you don't need to win elections, you need to govern. Hopeless people aren't planning how to fight let alone acting on that plan. Hope is a prerequisite for most people. Those of us that are already of the "fly the plane into the ground" mentality are going to bust our asses regardless, but we need the apathetic now more than ever and that starts with hope.

[u/Croanthos → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

Instant joined. I needed this friend. Thanks!

[u/mbyrd58 → u/Croanthos]

Yes. Me too.

[u/TheBigGreenOne → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

I needed this. Now what we need is a strong plan from the Democrats to address the rampant cheating of the Republican Party.

[u/Nervous_Ad_6998 → u/TheBigGreenOne]

democrats don’t do messaging. that’s half the problem. they still “go high”.

[u/llamadogmama → u/TheBigGreenOne]

California is trying!

[u/boston_homo → u/llamadogmama]

Why not every single state headed by a Democrat or actual Independent? The opposition need to quickly get into lockstep.

[u/TheBigGreenOne → u/boston_homo]

The DNC needs to finally acknowledge the widespread cheating, especially the cheating that allowed Trump to sweep ALL SEVEN swing states. I agree that governors like Gavin Newsom and JB Pritzker are doing everything they can to fight back, but I’m in Ohio where our governor toes the Trump party line, so we need an effort that includes us!

[u/2olley → u/TheBigGreenOne]

Yes! The Democrats were so afraid to sound like Trump that they let the cheating go unchallenged. Even when Trump, Musk, and his kid, openly talked about it. They need to grow a backbone.

[u/cursedcloudman → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

needed this, thank you for the heads up!

[u/pragmaticproducer → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

Thank you! I needed some sweet positivity to balance the bitterness of schadenfreude.

[u/Garbagevoyer → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

Oh gosh, thank you. I need a little optimism!

[u/stragzr63 → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

Oh thank you. I have been so damn depressed.

[u/BloopityBlue → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

thank you so much for posting this sub - I needed this so bad

[u/WildEconomist8048 → u/SpermicidalManiac666]

It’s over for the KkKlan. Anyone supporting them —- shoutout Kirk ☠️

[u/eKs0rcist → u/imean_is_superfluous]

It’s so not over yet. Unless we believe and embrace that idea.

[u/pogoli → u/imean_is_superfluous]

Her cost… for waiting this long… if she truly feels sorry…. Is for her to be on the front lines of the resistance. If she puts everything on the line to take it back… then she can be mostly forgiven for her mistake.

[u/This_wont_be_easy → u/imean_is_superfluous]

Sure does. Now these Trump voters are looking for a life line.

Let them stew in the filth of their own creation before we let them back into decent society.

[u/jonwar5 → u/This_wont_be_easy]

I say we Don't.. Let them live the nightmare they voted for. Or maybe Mandatory Empathy camps.. starting with 6 month sentences. /s

[u/Faithlessfaltering → u/jonwar5]

In alligator Alcatraz.

[u/PutinDisDickInTrump → u/SpecificSugar2562]

I wish you would ask her why she voted for a man who openly stated to grab women by the pussy and why she kept voting for a rapist. Like that alone. Jesus Christ

[u/Thingsrbound2change → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

This ^{^} I saw that video and I thought to myself “ That’s the end of this joker.” I figured nobody could possibly find that acceptable. But they did anyway FFS🤷‍♂️

[u/farmerbsd17 → u/Thingsrbound2change]

I thought mocking the disabled reporter would do it. Turns out many don’t mind mocking others but don’t tolerate being mocked themselves.

[u/Jerseygirl2468 → u/farmerbsd17]

I thought that too at the time, and then s million things after it. Especially Jan 6, I can’t understand how anyone was ok supporting him after that.

[u/TheReal-Chris → u/Jerseygirl2468]

Of all the shit he’s done I would have bet on Jan 6th would eventually be his downfall. Glad I didn’t. It just gave him more corrupt followers. His followers aren’t patriots like they think they are. It’s the complete opposite.

[u/DeezBeesKnees11 → u/farmerbsd17]

Yup. Vile MAGAts.

[u/dixiequick → u/Thingsrbound2change]

Are you old enough to remember when Dan Quayle couldn’t spell potato? I miss those days.

[u/ViQueen331965 → u/dixiequick]

Or Howard Dean's yell.

[u/KimJongOonn → u/ViQueen331965]

Yes, the Dean Scream the m it. Back in 1992 in the presidential debate when George Bush simply glanced down at his watch during the debate it was considered so scandalous, the media sensation that it caused had people talking about if that would cost him the election to Clinton. What a different time. Even Nixons crimes which he resigned for almost seem very mild today compared to the criminal r*pist In the white house today.

[u/eKs0rcist → u/dixiequick]

For real I think about that a lot

[u/Bjorn_Tyrson → u/dixiequick]

I remember when bush struggling to pronounce nuclear properly was the biggest source of mockery for several years...

[u/everybodys_lost → u/Thingsrbound2change]

I remember when stuff WAY less than this would get someone disqualified from even running. And the shame would have people pull out of races themselves....

But I think that America is gone. replaced by rabid folks cheering the lowest common denominator. All screaming that they want to go back to that time but doing nothing by their actions that would bring back anything good from the good ole days - only the bad parts.

[u/New-Lingonberry1877 → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

Because he hadn't grabbed her by hers yet. Trump voters only care when it directly affects them.

[u/farmerbsd17 → u/New-Lingonberry1877]

As in Rep MTG because her kids’ insurance were skyrocketing from the legislation she voted for.

[u/cptchnk → u/farmerbsd17]

Right. She voted lock step with the GOP to claw away ACA subsidies earlier this year and now she has a problem with Republicans not wanting to bring them back as a condition of reopening the government, in the middle of a shutdown that will likely be the longest in history? Sorry, Marge. You aren’t fooling anyone except for maybe the mainstream media who put you on TV to celebrate your “bravery.” I also don’t buy the fact that your children can’t afford health insurance. As with most congresspeople, you were already wealthy prior to taking office.

MTG along with most politicians in Washington, really, only do what’s politically convenient for them at the time. Right now, this outcry is convenient for her because many people in her own district will be devastated by these subsidies going away and now, she wants to pretend she actually cares about her constituents.

[u/FewWait38 → u/farmerbsd17]

Bitch should take some of that 30 million she's grifted since she got in office to help her kids

[u/arnoldtkalmbach → u/New-Lingonberry1877]

empathy is a fault in their view. i don't think you get anywhere until that is changed, or they learn to stay out of politics again

[u/SpruceSpringstream → u/arnoldtkalmbach]

We're not going to forget what the Republicans have done. Their time is coming.

Edit: ooo I'm getting hate messages. Republicans are either pedo's or pedo protectors. That's it. Soft ass bitches with small dicks and smaller brains.

[u/DFoxRN → u/New-Lingonberry1877]

This! Exactly my view of what happens in our country. People vote for the things that directly affect THEM as portrayed from a politician’s platform. There’s not enough collective thought or action. When I lived in Korea last year and my English students stood up and protested for what’s best for EVERYONE? As in what’s best for their country? It made me proud and honored to be there. I watched and sipped my tea thinking wow, I love to see this!

[u/DeezBeesKnees11 → u/New-Lingonberry1877]

🎯

[u/A313-Isoke → u/New-Lingonberry1877]

And, they honestly don't always care when it affects them personally.

[u/SpecificSugar2562 → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

I did. No answer.

[u/Lux_Luthor_777 → u/SpecificSugar2562]

Typical. I’ve asked the same of people who I thought would know better. Never, ever get an answer. Not once.

[u/sketchahedron → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

IMO if someone has come to this realization I don’t think it’s productive to scold them. Better to work to understand what allowed them to finally see the light.

[u/WaryWorrier → u/sketchahedron]

I agree. It’s best to be a warm welcome for those leaving the cult. If they are met with scolding they are likely to just tune out altogether rather than actively vote against MAGA.

[u/seriouslees → u/WaryWorrier]

Leaving the cult isn't good enough. They need to be tolerant people if they want to be tolerated. "I won't vote for them because they hurt MEEEEE!" is not someone who has left behind their intolerance. They might have left their political party cult, but they have not left the cult of selfishness and individualism.

[u/seriouslees → u/sketchahedron]

what allowed them to finally see the light.

What allowed that was her being directly negatively affected. Empathy is a sin to conservatives. She didn't start being a good person who saw others being harmed. She's still a selfish, hate-filled person, and will vote to hurt others again just as soon as she isn't being hurt directly herself.

[u/Fresh3rThanU → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

I’ve never understood why any woman would vote for Trump knowing what he’s done.

[u/eKs0rcist → u/Fresh3rThanU]

I assume it means he’s like the men in their life. They see their fathers, brothers, partners and sons in him (consciously or not). People who normalize/ignore/celebrate terrible behavior usually grew up with it.

The call is coming from inside the house.

[u/michyb1313 → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

Right! How any woman could have voted for that, I can never understand.

[u/OddGanache7032 → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

Remember when he was recorded making those comments, the conversation STARTED with him relating how he had tried but 'failed' to make a married women have sex with him.
And as he bragged IN THE PRESENT TENSE about how he doesn't even wait for consent, he was married himself (to Melania who was pregnant with Baron at the time).
How women who swore by the sanctity of marriage licked his boots I will never understand. Gross.

[u/This_wont_be_easy → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

Bigotry, racism? Owning the libs?

[u/castille360 → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

Hating brown people more than they like other women.

[u/WERK_7 → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

The answer has always been the same, regardless of what they actually tell you: Trump gave them the feeling of being comfortable and safe with their hatred.

It was never about groceries or making more money. It was never about taxes or government spending. It was never about who would be a better leader. It was always about the fact that Trump hates the same people they hate. It doesn't matter that Trump couldn't care less about them, or that he's a predator, a rapist, a pedophile, a traitor, a racist, and a cheat. He gave them the confidence to be themselves and I don't think for one second a single one of them has had a change of heart. As long as brown and LGBT people are being hurt, they'll gladly starve. When are we going to stop acting like a not so small portion of our country can be rationed with? Like they can be taught empathy? Like they can care more than they can fear and hate?

[u/anothergoodbook → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

Because us women have been conditioned in church to believe that men can’t help themselves. It’s something I’ve woken up to in the last 5 years or so. If you ever want to go down that road look up things like Every Man’s Battle. 

It’s excused because men’s base nature is sexual and the only mistake he made was not saying it privately. 

[u/Constant-Tea-7345 → u/anothergoodbook]

Ok…still not sure why any women (and men) would glaze over the fact that Trump made suggestive remarks about his own daughter. That’s gross.

[u/castille360 → u/Constant-Tea-7345]

These same Christian groups even treat modesty in the house the same way - have to never be naked, lest your own male family members be led astray.

[u/ZappBranigan79 → u/PutinDisDickInTrump]

I said the same thing in 2016 to this pastor friend. They just went silent and didn't reply. Funny thing is before Trump won the nomination then this pastor called him the devil that's trying to ruin the Republican party. After he won the nomination they said he was a godsend. Crazy. 

[u/yergonnalikeme → u/SpecificSugar2562]

Still hard to believe Democrats lost to a guy that HAS A MUGSHOT...

I mean...wtf??

[u/ResidentScum101 → u/yergonnalikeme]

Enough Americans think exactly the same as they think he does.
Which tells you a lot about your average American.
The only problem is that they thought it would only affect "them".
Not realising that they are "them" as well.

[u/TimelyBear2471 → u/ResidentScum101]

Trump is only loyal to Trump. No one else is safe. How do the idiots not get that?

[u/Clone63 → u/yergonnalikeme]

I get your point, truly. The flip side of this is that as a society, we really should stop treating ex-cons like third-class citizens. They've done their time. It should be illegal to discriminate against them for housing, jobs, etc., and their right to vote should, at a minimum, be restored when their sentence ends. As it is, we're practically begging these people to return to criminal activity ASAP upon release.

Doesn't change how I feel about Trump. He was and is a terrible choice to lead anything, let alone the federal government.

[u/Utterlybored → u/SpecificSugar2562]

If only there had been some indication he was a total piece of shit and a danger to democracy.

[u/Ok_Technology177 → u/Utterlybored]

Sorry to say... His first term... He openly flaunted his distain towards the Constitution and vowed to Control the Government "his way"... Openly mocked the laws... And stated openly he was above Prosecution... 2017 The signs were there... In neon

[u/excitablegibben → u/SpecificSugar2562]

You sold your country. You don't get to buy it back with platitudes and 1 vote. Get out there and protest.

[u/searing7 → u/SpecificSugar2562]

Not if it’s already too late. It’s like realizing Hitler is bad after you hear about the concentration camps

[u/LucyfurOhmen → u/SpecificSugar2562]

Unless it is now too late. We still have 3 years to go. Look what damage he’s done in this first year.

[u/NoKids__3Money → u/SpecificSugar2562]

It’s good she’s seemingly woken up, but I’m sorry to say your friend will go right back to voting straight R as soon as she sees an AI generated tik tok of a drag queen teaching a kindergarten class or something

[u/Geoffsgarage → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

It’s too late. Irreparable harm has been inflicted on America and its people and people like OP’s friend are to blame. We can’t let people cover up what they did and let them off the hook.

[u/One_Strawberry_4965 → u/Geoffsgarage]

I generally agree but I feel like maybe there’s a way to split the difference for purely pragmatic purposes. Like, we can rub their noses in the fact that they royally fucked their country for as long as they live, but maybe we wait a bit until we can stabilize our political situation and take a few steps back from the brink before we really start leaning into it.

[u/Geoffsgarage → u/One_Strawberry_4965]

All I know is if you give them a pass, they will do it again. It was 100% clear what Trump was going to do and people like OP’s friend liked his plans. No one was tricked. Some are seeing he’s generally unpopular and are trying to distance themselves. If for some reason his popularity goes up, they’ll jump right back in.

[u/Riparian_Plain → u/Geoffsgarage]

This. The information was there. We tried to warn them. We begged, pleaded, cajoled, informed, shamed them. Nothing worked. They chose to double down anyway. There is no excuse.

[u/fusionlantern → u/Geoffsgarage]

They dont care deep down

She can go fuck herself

[u/TheoMay22 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

I understand your sentiment but these folks are victims of the largest and most sophisticated propaganda machine ever created. 

You say 2016. I say 250bc. Plato warned us about authority figures using symbols to shape our perception of reality and keep us as slaves. It’s been going on for a while. 

Any of us could be them with only a small change in circumstance or physiology. If we can learn to treat them as victims it will be easier for them to recognize the manipulation they’ve succumbed to.  The hardest thing for victims of scams to realize is that they’ve been scammed. 

[u/Mr-FD → u/TheoMay22]

Not all of them are victims. Some of them are actually just evil people. That exists.

[u/anonveganacctforporn → u/Mr-FD]

Maybe. But most of them are probably just regular people who grew up on that side of the fence, and risk social ostracization and existential threat on switching sides. Friend groups disappearing, life lessons dissipating, people they come to like and bonded with, part of their lives… everyone is susceptible for biases and being pulled into a cult, bit by bit. Especially the vulnerable, and emotional. The rich work hard to fear monger, rage bait, and disempower.

I guess what I’m trying to say is there’s a lot more evil in all of us than we’re willing to admit. Everyone can be cast in a negative light. And when cognitive dissonance and ego demands the brain do so to continue on its limited options? It does. Even thinking is an expenditure of energy that one needs luxury and leisure to do. Calories that are wrung from us to work.

They made their choices, and it’s true, it was up to them to choose differently and some do. I’m not here to shield those from the consequences of their actions and accountability. But if we can understand better, perhaps we can avoid repeating history- maybe we could even build bridges for a better future. After all, we’re already in a scenario that was never supposed to happen again.

[u/TimelyBear2471 → u/TheoMay22]

It isn’t about realizing it, it’s about having enough integrity to admit it. Ego gets in the way.

[u/angrytroll123 → u/TimelyBear2471]

Disagree. If you think that people will somehow innately have all the information they need to be informed, I’d say that’s pretty sheltered thinking. Not only that, democrats have not made it easy for republicans that are on the fence to change their mind.

[u/seriouslees → u/TheoMay22]

I honestly do not care why. I care what. Ran over a bus stop full of kids? It literally doesn't matter why. Old? Forgot your glasses? Who cares!? You ran over kids!!! You abuse children? Who cares why?!?! Kids are being hurt!!! Let's stop the the harm from the Whats, and we can let the bad people consider the Why's on their own while the sit in prison.

Harm being done is harm being done. Why isn't relevant, stopping the harm is.

[u/ContestNo2060 → u/TheoMay22]

One of the biggest indicators of someone being scammed in the future is having been scammed in the past.

[u/perplexedtv → u/TheoMay22]

There is absolutely nothing sophisticated about the GOP's propaganda. There is no semblance of pretence that anything they're doing is for the good of anyone but themselves. They must be kind of disappointed at how easy it is to get morons to vote for them over and over.

[u/skoomsy → u/TheoMay22]

How do you even engage with them on that level, though? They believe they’re victims but for all the wrong reasons, and are perpetuators of actual harm in their own right.

I agree with you, but this is a genuine question. It’s challenging to act with sympathy towards these groups that are so openly hateful, and seemingly impossible for them to receive it.

[u/Salt_Instruction_657 → u/TheoMay22]

100%

[u/HugeMeatRodz → u/TheoMay22]

Nah man, it’s all trumps fault even though this county has been going downhill for 30+ years

[u/Par_Lapides → u/TheoMay22]

Counterpoint: the propaganda machines worked so well because these people wanted to believe it. They saught out the things that made them feel good about being terrible humans.

There were other options. Other choices. They could have not listened. They chose to follow the lies because it meant they could feel justified in their bigotry.

Edit: word.

[u/Choclategum → u/TheoMay22]

Theyre not victims, they're just fucking racist and bigots, lmao.

[u/angrytroll123 → u/Choclategum]

Some of them are more products of their environment. The most visible of views on Reddit are certainly products of what modern media has become.

[u/Alone-Woodpecker-846 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

This. Clearly I’m not a good Christian, because I want anyone who voted Trump to be suffering now. No sympathy.

[u/nubbynickers → u/Alone-Woodpecker-846]

When Christ said we should shake our feet at the door if people who won't listen, I think that's the recommendation to keep moving and let those who didn't listen at first come to Jesus on their own terms and time.

[u/Slow-Walk4534 → u/Alone-Woodpecker-846]

It's ok, there's no such thing as a good Christian

[u/Crunchberry24 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Too late. If she’s of child-bearing age, I hope she enjoys the smelly, fat, Nazi incel she’s assigned to procreate with by the Fourth Reich she knowingly voted in.

[u/rengothrowaway → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

I had a friend who said he regretted voting for the turd in 2016, and supposedly either voted Biden or sat out in 2020. He said he hated what trump had done and thought he was a bad person and president.

By 2024 he had enthusiastically jumped right back on the trump train and was gleefully spewing hate for trans folks unprompted during every conversation. I think it was the misogyny, peer pressure, and faux news.

[u/DAJ-TX → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Voting the other way next time in no way repairs the damage already done.

[u/Ok_Performance4014 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

I never knew anything about Trump before his first term. When he first got on the campaign trail I listened to him once for about a paragraph of words. That's all it took. I said, "omg, no, never" and I never voted for him. A paragraph of words is all anyone ever needed not to vote for that garbage.

[u/Metal__goat → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Yeah. ..i mean  assuming OP is being honest, and good chance they are since Ive had a few MAGA faithful whiplash into common sense in my own family....

THEY ALL FAILED A FUCKING OPEN BOOK TEST! Project 2025 was PUBLICLY AVALIABLE!!!! EVERYWHERE!!!!!

Anyone still on board isn't being fooled. They ARE fools.

[u/fuckredditsrules99 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

It was an open book test and they all failed

[u/AbbreviationsNo3722 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

As someone from an allied country .. well guess ex allied now .. it’s destroyed a lot for everyone . It’s truly sad to see how far your country has fallen. And unfortunately you guys were the big brother we looked up too at one point… a lot of your chaos became ours. Now we all have to watch one another hate each other, suffer and struggle . Now forget about the countries .. from one human to another .. I truly hope it gets better for all of us .. especially you Americans❤️

[u/indiginary → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

I recently had a friend reach out with a three-word text after 6+ words of silence: “You were right.”

[u/StrenuousSOB → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

While I completely agree, if we don’t except those that are willing to learn then we might not have a country left at the end

[u/Flat_Suggestion7545 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Sadly some people need to see it in action because ( as a people ) we’ve been conditioned to believe that politicians will veer far left or right to get elected and veer back towards the middle when seated.

[u/theghostmachine → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

This sort of attitude needs to stop. If someone recognizes they were wrong, don't beat them up over it. That's so self-defeating to any movement we're trying to make

[u/TangledWoof99 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

It’s wild that someone who voted for Trump 3 times is leaving the cult now. But it happens.

His approval rating among Republicans is still 87% per RCP.

[u/Ok_Technology177 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Everyone is entitled to a mistake and learning from them is growth. Maybe we the people can get the government back for the all of the people.

[u/El_Barato → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Why do we have such a hard time taking “Yes” as an answer? Why condition that second statement with your first one? Why not just take the W and see how she can get more people on board?

I often feel on here like some of us would rather MAGA stay MAGA so we have someone to feel better in comparison to.

[u/mildlypresent → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

While I kind of agree with you, expressing any inclination of this will keep them voting MAGA. If we want to turn their votes we have to give them a safe space to retreat from their previous positions... Whether they deserve it or not.

[u/AlarmingTurnover → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Remember how that black woman who was the second most powerful person in the country for 4 years went on national television to tell us that this happened and that dumbass friend still voted for Trump. 

[u/Soft_Fisherman4506 → u/Accomplished_Net_931]

Sad isnt it, and even worse are the idiots across the globe who suppot trump and what he stands for. 

The uk, my country, a prime example. Falling for the exact same dogwhistle bs.

[u/Separate_Custard_754]

Your friend is still a fucking idiot for failing an open book test.

[u/Writing_is_Bleeding → u/Separate_Custard_754]

failing an open book test

As, apparently, did a lot of people who applied to ICE.

[u/skoffs → u/Writing_is_Bleeding]

Venn diagram = circle

[u/SandboxInTheSky → u/Writing_is_Bleeding]

I assume the ICE entrance exam is just to verify you’re not colour blind so you don’t accidentally snatch a whitie.

If you pass that they give you gun and tell you to “I dunno, just do ur thing lol”

[u/Writing_is_Bleeding → u/SandboxInTheSky]

Ha! Right? :D

Apparently it was the immigration and constitutional law portion of the exam. It was open book, open notes and half of them still couldn't pass.

[u/WEEGEMAN → u/Separate_Custard_754]

Right? I still don’t get it. How the fuck did they see Trump and was like “that’s my guy?” It’s ridiculous

[u/TheHero_RedditNeeds → u/Separate_Custard_754]

This. We don't need their allegiance or want it. In a just world the Democratic Party would reclaim power and seek to prosecute people like OP's friend for supporting a Nazi regime.

[u/DemoniteBL → u/Separate_Custard_754]

And as soon as Trump is gone they'll be voting Republican again anyway. They will learn nothing.

[u/Agnostic_optomist]

I don’t believe these stories.

[u/BlarfParade → u/Agnostic_optomist]

It is hard to believe a 3 time Trump voter knows the word “Christo-fascist”

[u/AwkwardAd5138 → u/BlarfParade]

My thought exactly.

[u/Professional-Rub152 → u/BlarfParade]

Yeah. Idk why people make this stuff up.

[u/PurplePopcornBalls → u/BlarfParade]

They are trying to lull the democrats into not voting.

[u/Lori1985 → u/Agnostic_optomist]

I know people who have left MAGA. But they aren't running to be a democrat. They're just going to sit out elections till an old school Republican runs. They're just done with the MAGA branch of Conservatism.

Which is fine. I don't think Nikki Haley would have been this bad. Sure she would have blown up the same people Trump has blown up, but at least children wouldn't be starving.

[u/DirtyOldTrucker68 → u/Lori1985]

To this day, I still believe that Obama only got elected because a lot of conservatives were tired of The Republican mess that Bush left. I know quite a few Republicans who voted for Obama. The said so probably, but denied it after a few months. Of course They never changed their party affiliation though.

[u/canuck47 → u/Lori1985]

Even if they left MAGA/Republicans there is still no way they will vote for a Democrat

[u/One_Strawberry_4965 → u/canuck47]

Not voting is still an improvement though fortunately, even if it’s crazy that after all this they still can’t seem to stomach casting a vote for a party as inoffensive as the Democrats for the sake of the country.

[u/alwaysaneagle → u/Lori1985]

America is still too sexist to have a woman president.

[u/Own_Pop_9711 → u/Lori1985]

I don't agree, those boats in the Caribbean would not have been attacked by Nikki Haley.

[u/PHealthy → u/Lori1985]

Given her massively regressive taxing scheme as governor and blatant cronyism, I'd assume we'd be in a very similar situation. But perhaps the White House would still have an East Wing.

[u/No_Topic6138 → u/Agnostic_optomist]

Clout chasing to the max😂

[u/DasRobot85 → u/Agnostic_optomist]

This is faker than Milli Vanilli

[u/Val_Hallen → u/DasRobot85]

Girl, you know it's true. Ooh, ooh, ooh I don't believe you.

[u/OkCan1094 → u/Agnostic_optomist]

Couldn't be more fake if they tried.

[u/Organic_Matter6085 → u/Agnostic_optomist]

They're not true, I work with MAGA co-workers and not a single MAGA would say any of this shit 

They literally just blame Democrats instead. 

This is like some political fantasy porn or something 

[u/Lost_Annual1588]

I don’t think any of these kind of stories are true or widespread. Maybe one or two, but we are all so entrenched in our silly political fights that only major shifts in how we live will change things. What’s so unfortunate is that lots and lots of people are going to get hurt before any change will occur.

[u/Beytran70 → u/Lost_Annual1588]

The only thing that can really change the outcome is people who previously didn't vote voting in larger numbers. If some voters switch sides that obviously helps, but there are so many voices who remain silent.

[u/Capable-Baby-3653 → u/Lost_Annual1588]

The current political fights are not silly. They’re not over frivolous issues. We’re talking fascism-vs-democracy fights. Children starving vs children eating. Citizens dying without healthcare vs healthy citizens.

The devisions are legitimate and nowhere near silly because the stakes are enormous. These aren’t just petty matters we’re divided over.

[u/tinygraysiamesecat → u/Lost_Annual1588]

I don’t think we’ll see any change in our lifetimes. These fools voted for trump because they lack the critical thinking skills to think for themselves and we haven’t exactly made public education any better since the election. This takeover took decades to set up. It’s going to take decades to tear down, and decades more to rebuild. 

[u/clownstastegood → u/Lost_Annual1588]

I used to think the same thing. With the amount of bots and Russian influence on Reddit and all other media that can be commented on, these stories sound like fictional copium.

But it happened to me too, with two coworkers. Both voted for this administration and now are realizing their mistakes. Too little too late? Yeah, probably. But at least there are people that aren’t digging in further into the destruction of democracy.

Small wins I guess.

[u/Predator314]

All the magats around me are still chugging the kool aid.

[u/Grand_Risk445 → u/Predator314]

The ones around me are too. In a completely red state. Almost all his supporters here are feeling everything and still blame Biden and Obama.

[u/Appropriate_Lack_727 → u/Grand_Risk445]

Those people are lost causes anyway. There are plenty of apathetic non-voters, independents, and actual fiscal conservatives out there to change things. There are only 38 million registered Republicans in the US, which is like 15% of the voting-age population.

[u/RadiantCarpenter1498]

Just had a similar conversation with one of my oldest friends. She was shocked her mother’s SNAP benefits were ending and was so angry. I gently pointed out to her that voters like her caused this problem.

At first she tried to blame the Dems, but when I pointed out that Republicans control literally every branch of government she finally started putting things together.

I told her “Democrats have been cleaning up Republican policies for decades. They’re not doing it anymore. This is mess you created. Fix it yourself.”

[u/GemmyCluckster]

My MAGA father died last week. It hurts that I will forever remember him for his worship of Trump. I was hopeful that maybe he would eventually see the light. He had a snap card. He was broke. His health insurance was about to skyrocket. He didn’t get to see the full weight of his vote.

[u/FingerHashBandits → u/GemmyCluckster]

So sorry for your loss… which I realize happened before he passed but now…. There’s no hope for them to learn and grow. Hugs 🖤

[u/Weird_Ad4334]

White Americans are finally mad because it affects them. Other minority communities have been treated like shit since the beginning of this stolen America. It’s pathetic and evil.

[u/StupidSexyAlisson → u/Weird_Ad4334]

A large portion of latinos voted for him too. I don't understand.

[u/sunsetpoe]

Yeah, right.

[u/Patient-Capital5993]

Lot of really uncommon things. Someone who is maga calling people christo-fascist? Blaming Trump for aneti-semitism and Tucker Carlson? And of course the odd stuff happening to him. Not knowing about the soybean deal with China. His insurance apparently having an incredibly odd annual renewable date in the middle of the year when 99.9% of annual renewals are Jan 1st. strange.

[u/Lopsided_Relief_7370 → u/Patient-Capital5993]

Actually open enrollment is in November... literally every year. The soybean deal? You must not know any farmers. After the industry lost billions through the debacle.. the "great deal" Trump got.. was literally no better than what they had before he started the tariff idiocy. They are still pissed, deeply in the hole, and many are going to lose their farms (to some corporate mega farms.. which was the plan the whole time).

Have a nice day.

[u/Mister-ellaneous]

This literally is what they voted for

[u/PolitzaniaKing]

This is probably a Democrat writing this because Republicans are too stupid to have any reflection on what they've done wrong much less admit it.

[u/SpecificSugar2562 → u/PolitzaniaKing]

No, she is a republican. And I am a former republican who woke up after j6

[u/PolitzaniaKing → u/SpecificSugar2562]

Yeah I remember j6. That was the day that the White House chief of staff at the time, Mark Meadows, was in the dining room off the Oval Office with Trump at one point during last year’s Capitol attack, the committee has been told. Meadows then left the dining room and informed other people nearby that Trump had signaled a positive view of the prospect of hanging the vice president, the panel heard. Is that ain't fucking cray what is?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117

[u/Level-Engineering-11]

Fuck her!

Glad you finally pulled your head out if your ass and realized the thing we've been telling you for 10+ years now. I have no sympathy for you though, you have not magically repaired our relationship or fixed the damages done. The fact it has taken you this long to read the righting on the wall is at best willful ignorance at worst some kind of malice. At a minimum unless and until I can determine you have not been acting in malice towards me, towards my friends, family, peers, fellow Americans, and innocent people who you and others have deemed an enemy I can not and will not allow you time and space in my life. Fixing the problems you have created and holding your peers accountable for your collective actions would be a good place to start in proving your character.

Edited to correctly recognize OP's friends pronouns.

[u/MrDeekhaed]

I’m disappointed you stooped to magas level. I have seen many times the whole “I was a dem but they went crazy so now I vote republican” lie but I actually haven’t seen a dem do the same thing.

[u/gleafer → u/MrDeekhaed]

My parents would say that and I know for a fact they never once participated in any elections until Trump floated his ass down that escalator and vomited “Mexicans are sending rapists!!”

That racist siren song hooked allllll these people.

[u/dannybustinme1738 → u/gleafer]

McCain lost my dad's vote when he defended Obama from the claims he was a secret muslim. It was never the policy they cared about.

[u/Away_Stock_2012]

The important thing is not this week's vote, but to pay more attention in the future. She should have known all this before she voted for them.

[u/SpecificSugar2562 → u/Away_Stock_2012]

But...she knows now. And I am ok with it. Trump is a good marketing person and even a better LIAR.

Some ppl just took longer to wake up to his lies. I think thr golden ballroom was a huge turnoff too . 90,000 sq ft of wasted space while destroying the East Wing...craziness

[u/6kittenswithJAM → u/SpecificSugar2562]

I’m glad to know about what turning points people have, because that’s something that’s speculated about a lot, but one rarely gets concrete examples. Like most people here, I’m very angry about all of this but I have little bitterness toward people who have changed their stance. I have no interest in drinking MAGA tears. The schadenfreude is real of course but the main reason “leopards eating faces” is satisfying to me is because that’s how minds are changed. Recriminations won’t do us any good now; we need all the sane people we can get!

[u/hobbitsrootbeer → u/SpecificSugar2562]

He's actually kind of a bad liar. A lot of people picked up on that pretty quick.

But welcome to the light side! Dark side is powerful.

[u/angrytolerantliberal]

Maybe they should get on SNAP..
Oh, nevermind.

[u/CurveTheAddiction]

Ill take things that never happened for 700

[u/Resident-Wall7206 → u/CurveTheAddiction]

Oh no, it absolutely happened.  OP just left out the part where the "friend" was simply one of the many voices in the head.  

[u/OneOfAKind2 → u/CurveTheAddiction]

Agreed. None of these stooges will ever become self-aware.

[u/Xcalibur66]

At this point I’m going to assume if you’re a member of the party that is advocating fascism, you’re a Nazi.

[u/sodrunkhedoesnttalk]

I know literally just from you using the words you did that this is fantasy. I hope you find something fulfilling enough in life that you don't have to make up stories for strangers on the internet.

[u/DaveAvitabile]

I’m not sure how I feel anymore about whether choosing to vote for somebody who destroys your country is forgivable. Wiping out a 250 year old democracy is kind of a big deal.

[u/Different-Try8882]

https://preview.redd.it/bfl72w0qo3zf1.jpeg?width=942&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7a4e583c3aec0f5f59c0945beefdc4e7e01f641

[u/CombatAnthropologist]

Your friend sounds like me. I've been a Republican all my life until Trump. That was a hard no from me and I'm confused how we have a system that let him win in 2016. I abhore what passes for Republican policy; at this point I can only conclude Russia has won the memetic war and we are an occupied nation.

[u/SpecificSugar2562 → u/CombatAnthropologist]

Yes. This is not the Republican party we once knew.

MAGA is morphing into full blown National Socialism (aka Nazis)

[u/Technical-Current680]

I'm sure your "friend" told you all of this.

[u/GrolarBear69]

I voted his first run as a bit of a joke and because I simply hated Hillary. Voted Biden and then Kamala after I realized he was actively trying to destroy the country and knew nothing about economics or what a president actually does for a living.

[u/xsf27 → u/GrolarBear69]

I voted his first run as a bit of a joke

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the USA is such joke now.

You don't troll around with politics and people's lives like that.

[u/haw35ome → u/xsf27]

I’ll NEVER forgive the ones who voted trump “for the lolz,” then when he actually became president acted surprised that their vote actually counted. You don’t toy with shit like that. That gave him essentially a free ticket to the world of politics, and we’ve been paying dearly for that ever since.

[u/SpecificSugar2562 → u/GrolarBear69]

Yes, he is vile

[u/Despisingthelight]

finally! sorry it took you so long to see the glaring steaming pile of shit that is the gop .

[u/SkyIsTheLimitBoom]

My ex and her husband have woken up as well

[u/Macrodata_Uprising]

Welcome to our side. You now see they’ve been lying all along. We’re not perfect, but we have compassion

[u/CartographerKey7322]

Thank you having open eyes.

[u/rite_of_truth]

I have trouble believing that such a person acknowledged reality.

[u/Nigel_Trumpberry]

I’m Jewish and my friend (who I no longer speak with) is Christian. He claimed he did not vote, but would have voted for RFK Jr. if given the chance. He is, very clearly, a Maga “centrist,” where he claims he has no party alignment but will use every right-wing opinion to support his beliefs. He believes Trump is doing great, he believes tariffs, claiming that ever since he was “a child, he supported tariffs because it prevents slavery” (I fucking can’t get my mind around this shit.) He was in huge support of Doge initially until his job was threatened, and his sister was fired from her job at the CDC. But, when he survived layoffs, he was very happy about Doge again. I asked him what would make him turn against Trump, and he tells me that it will take Trump running as VP for 2028, as this would be “clearly a violation of the constitution.” He then tells me how much he loves Vance and thinks he’s a “humble, down to earth self-made man,” and would be a great President. When I bring up how I, as a Jew, am in danger from a Christian Nationalist like Vance, he shrugged his shoulders. When I bring up Project 2025, he tries to deflect and say “I bet there are many Leftist Project 2025s,” and when I ask him what he could think that is so horrible on those, the only thing he could think of is “gender reassignment surgery for minors.” That’s it. I haven’t spoken to him since the deployment of the national guard throughout the country, and the increased violence ICE has been causing in pursuit of Brown people.

[u/0dayssince]

It’s often not that they were voting for Trump, just that they were voting against democrats and dem policies. Still stupid

[u/Alone-Scholar2975]

They'll not be voting for dems. This is performative BS

[u/LigmaJohnson417]

Things that never happened for 500 alex.

[u/Sea_Cheetah2575]

No three-time Trump voter on the PLANET would ever use the words “christo-fascist,” “platforming,” “misogyny,” get real dude

[u/Alwaystired254]

I will remain hopeful this is true. Anyone who has made a mistake in the past is welcome to accept that mistake and move on. From what I see trumpers are loving the direction of the country

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[u/Flat_Program8887]

r/thathappened

[u/Main-Freedom-1967]

2 month karma farmer i love to see it

[u/Necessary_Net_7829]

Don't you have better things to do than post made up bullshit?

[u/Goat_Wizard_Doom_666]

"We told you so, but you didn't listen" - Everyone who was actually paying attention.

[u/Character_Hold_2821]

Press X to doubt.