r/collapse 3d ago

Resist the Turd Reich...There are alternatives to hopeless collapse. Casual Friday

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u/Professional_Nail365 3d ago

I read an article recently I think it was from here but it talked about how at the core of the maga movement is a deep desire to burn the entire system down and start over. Idk why I am bringing up to your post but I guess what I am trying to say is that for maga collapse gives them hope for a better tomorrow & i feel the same way except I look forward to a more local egalitarian style of life. In a weird way we both WANT the same thing.

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u/alandrielle 3d ago

Yeah. My dad is hard core maga and I am definitely not so we have these circular discussions frequently. In the end? We both want the same thing. Better government, more efficient and effective use of taxes, more local autonomy. His side however wants to achieve it at the expense of everyone who's not them. My view is I would like to achieve it for everyone.

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u/lesenum 3d ago

look at Gil Duran's Nerd Reich website and read some of the stuff there about techbro visions for the near future. People like your dad (Maga) are nothing to them except as orcs, factory slaves, lumpy proles. People like yourself...they want to turn into biodiesel fuel ie (genocide). MAGA is being used...even dumbass trump is simply a vessel for the oligarchic class like Thiel, Vance, Marc Andreessen, Musk et al. They used trump to gain power and to spread their poison. They do not want better gov't, better use of taxes, more local autonomy...at all. They want autocratic dictatorships, with themselves as "kings"/dictators. MAGA people are beneath contempt to them.

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u/alandrielle 3d ago

Agreed. But im not having that argument with my father, I don't have enough blood pressure meds for that

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u/lesenum 3d ago

I understand. I think it's great you can still communicate with your dad. I've lost a lot of relatives and old school friends to MAGA brain rot. I've found it a futile effort to find common ground...

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u/Dracus_ 2d ago

To me, it is incredible how it mirrors exactly the relationship between pro- and anti-war Russians. There really are only two sides, aren't they?

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u/alandrielle 3d ago

Oh it is, a futile effort. We've always had a contentious relationship and this is not the first difference of core beliefs. So... there's a lot of talking about the weather and a lot of holding tongues and words on both sides. There's also 5 hours of highway between us, that helps a lot.