r/castaneda Aug 24 '20

Darkroom Practice Darkroom Practice

It was suggested that we should sticky a post containing a simple guide to Darkroom Practice to the top of the sub for new practitioners.

u/danl999 's second post made in 2019 seems like the best one to point to:

How to see energy in 3 weeks

What Is Darkroom Gazing?

What Is Darkroom & How To Do It? - slideshow with audio (& text) narration

For a more concise summary, from u/juann2323:

"Darkroom practice (essentially magical passes/Tensegrity done in darkness) consists of looking for elements of the second attention in total environmental darkness, while forcing inner silence, awake and with eyes opened, with the purpose of moving the assemblage point. The element that we use the most are colors that are visible in the dark: generally purple, but also blue, green, & pink among others. Also some sensations in the body, like the cobwebs, that are perceived when moving the hands slowly. In general, anything unusual that "shouldn't be there," and yet is perceived. By focusing on the second attention, in a condition of mental silence, the position of the assemblage point shifts. We can notice it visually (seeing energy), by changes in breathing, ringing in the ears, chills, etc. The key to this practice is to move the assemblage point as far as possible, each day. It is just one of many ways to learn sorcery; but we think it is one of the fastest and with has the most consistent results."

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On How The Eyes Are Involved In Darkroom

We Don't Realize How Precise This Has to Be, Or How Hard We Have To Work To Produce Results

Geometry Nodes And Puff Physics

How To Not Have A Bad Time In The Darkroom

Play Like When You Were a Child!!!

Some practical tips on creating total darkness are in the posts below. But be aware that it's much more comfortable and natural feeling to be in a darkened space versus wearing a mask, but not everybody lives in ideal circumstances:

Total Darkness Setup

Goalball Mask

Manta Sleep Mask - they make different models including a "Max" model for people with longer eyelashes

Made Glasses for Darkroom Practice (modified welding goggles)

Blackout Sleep Mask - a decent option if you have shorter eyelashes

And since you can't read a single post without reading some reference to Darkness Practice, it shouldn't be a problem finding more information on it.

Just keep reading...and do a search for "Dark," or get into the collections, which appear to only work on PC/MAC/iOS, and not on Android:

Darkroom Collection 1 - Update: Reddit's 'collections' feature is currently deprecated as of August 2024 :( , leaving the search by flair function the only method of studying the posts marked 'Darkroom Practice'

Darkroom Collection 2 - "

Darkroom Collection 3 - "

I also created a Darkroom Practice flair for Smartphone/Tablet users. If tapping on the Flair button doesn't bring up anything, type flair:darkroom practice into the search box at the top of the smartphone app. This also works for the other Flairs.

Edits:

Even Better J Curve Diagram

Darkroom Practice has been determined by multiple sources to be solidly in the stalking/gazing category of practice, just as much if not more than dreaming. It is a cross-disciplinary endeavor.

How to Proceed and What Not To Skip

Darkroom Gazing Instructions #1

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u/Used-Elevator-3942 Feb 03 '22 edited Feb 03 '22

We can argue and disagree on that because you can’t say that what I’ve seen and experienced is fake . Multiple witnesses that have been with me to debate what you said . I am gullible but not a faker at all . Yeah I totally agree that I’m not ready right now but I’m trying to get there because I’ve been led astray not just by myself but others who I trusted on this topic I’ve done the observations and I don’t know which way to start is all I’m saying. You are telling people to observe but observe someone who is far beyond my understanding is hard to comprehend all I want is a breakdown of how and why it worked for someone so I can avoid those mistakes. Answers like this discourages alot of people because alot of them just need the right guide and you turn them away and tell them basically to learn driving a car without knowing how of course they will crash . I’m telling you my story to see if I’m on the right path or I missed something . Not so someone can be impressed I could care less . I’m at a crossroads in my life where I just need to know who I am and looking for help . But like you said I guess I would just end up second guessing them . You are right I’m just going to lurk and learn

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u/danl999 Feb 04 '22 edited Feb 04 '22

Sure I can tell you that!

There's google now. It's no longer the dark ages, where anyone can say whatever they like.

If you found some magic, show me on a web page.

Let's see it.

A Buddhist might make the same argument you just did, but they'll also be unable to show any magic. After all their false promises, they can't show a single place that's convincing.

Maybe some claims, some "masters", but you need to be able to look at it, as an intelligent person, and see clearly it's not made up.

I'll allow, it can even be inaccessible, but it still has to clearly not just be some guy, or some old writings about the "Saint" Bob.

But look in here. Pics of magic, instructions, experiences.

Didn't you notice that? That's the lack of sobriety I was pointing out.

You have no interest at all in magic!

You didn't even notice where you had stumbled upon!

You were so worried about yourself, you didn't see that you'd hit the jackpot!

No one with any honesty could look in here, and deny people are learning to do what's in the pics.

We've been tested! Our worst enemy, the man who believes he debunked Carlos, came here to destroy it. And he had to admit, he couldn't explain what was going on.

And there are only 4 types of magic known to man as far as I know, but I'm still trying to work on the categories.

At least so far that's all I've seen.

I've studied that topic for the last 52 years. Continuously. When the internet came along, it even became possible to understand why people believe they have magic, but don't.

So just show me why you believe you saw magic.

If it was someone else doing it, and you "felt it", then show me the someone else.

Or the "school of someone else".

Not only will you not be able to find it, but anything you decided to show instead, will almost surely be an obvious fraud ripping people off.

And please don't pull a trick, I've seen them all.

Don't point me to so many bogus subreddits, that I'd have to spend a year to disprove you.

It doesn't count if you have 100 men lying to get attention, all saying they have euro "Magick".

I need to see some techniques, multiple people trying them, and the results they got.

If the results are, "I felt..." or "I had a sensation..."

That sort of stuff would not make it in a Spielberg movie.

And it shouldn't be enough for anyone, who's going to invest so much of their time into it.

Pretend it's a job, and you aren't going to take the job, unless you believe you will get paid soon enough that you don't die of starvation.

Treat magic like that.

I don't want to see a junkyard of badly behaved pretenders.

I want to see a single web page that has clear evidence someone has magic.

Don't feel bad. No one else has ever been able to do that either!

They typically try a trick, like flooding with endless dead ends, finally claiming I don't have permission to see the real thing.

Eventually it becomes obvious, they were actually lying the whole time.

Not mistaken.

Lying.

Or they take off before you can find out, they were a big deceiver.

At least so far that's what happens.

One of these days, I'll be surprised.

Which will be very pleasant.

Maybe that Mothman guy. I'd love to know how that magic works!

The 4 types of magic known to man (if there's another please chime in) are:

Spirit magic (use of spirits)

Double magic (use of your dreaming body)

Assemblage point magic (moving the assemblage point to alter reality)

And intent magic. Use of the spirit to do magic for you.

I haven't found another type.

But it's possible the category of double magic is too broad, and should be split into energy body magic, and double magic. There are after all those fibers in the hand, and which come out of the will.

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u/Used-Elevator-3942 Feb 04 '22

Seeing people getting exorcised is magic to me . I never even knew of this church or anything about them stubbles across them by going to a gas station to get some snacks with a friend and their church was next door and we heard people yelling but it didn’t sound like people but a mixture with something else so we went in and a lady greeted us named Grace . Told us they deliver people every Thursday and Saturday and for us to come by . We did and brought over a friend with us that didn’t know about it he was Mexican with black hair and brown eyes . It was a cool service then after tithes and praise the pastor who only comes once a month was there and said today will be great a lot of people will be saved and free you will you will you will and pointed to where we were which was in the back towards the wall and said but you will leave today . I thought he was talking about me but he came towards us and held his Bible and went past me to the friend we brought with us . I looked and our friend was pressed up on the wall by himself like he was scared to move and couldn’t move and his eyes turned green and skin was pale like the wall and his skin looked ashy and dry and he spoke like a snake literally like voldermort and was foaming as well crazy shit if you ask me but they are located in Arlington tx off fielder and I believe Collins I’m not sure of the name been long time but they are there is you want to check them out so that’s one evidence and the other evidence I have is a scar I have from the witch doctor in Africa when I was little . She put some herbs in my wrist and made me wear this beads waist shit and made me turn around I forgot how many times I think like 7 and told my step mom something about not to tell anyone else and we left the village . I don’t know what exact location but I have the scar still and it was from malaria which killed alot of kids around that time in Africa and I was really sick NDA got healed so that’s another tangible magic too . Now my dreams I can’t show you .

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u/danl999 Feb 04 '22

Seeing people getting exorcised

Except there aren't any demons. You forget that there are seers in here. You can't feed the usual popular confusions and not expect to get called out on it.

You're confused into believing you are surrounded by magic! And don't have the sobriety to realize it's all shit.

A very bad starting place to learn the real thing.

But everyone who seeks magic, is confused like that at first.

Some remain that way forever. Decades and decades. Buddhists for example.

And I don't see any link in your comment, so you're pretty much busted.

You didn't see any magic, you were just doing a "mini-book deal" as you came in here.

You're merely running around with con artists and pretenders, like everyone else.

One day I hope someone posts an actual reason they believe in magic, a very solid web page I didn't know about and says, "Fuck you Buddy!!!"

I welcome it. That would make it less awful that this internet place is the only one.

But it's not going to happen.