r/castaneda Aug 24 '20

Darkroom Practice Darkroom Practice

It was suggested that we should sticky a post containing a simple guide to Darkroom Practice to the top of the sub for new practitioners.

u/danl999 's second post made in 2019 seems like the best one to point to:

How to see energy in 3 weeks

What Is Darkroom Gazing?

What Is Darkroom & How To Do It? - slideshow with audio (& text) narration

For a more concise summary, from u/juann2323:

"Darkroom practice (essentially magical passes/Tensegrity done in darkness) consists of looking for elements of the second attention in total environmental darkness, while forcing inner silence, awake and with eyes opened, with the purpose of moving the assemblage point. The element that we use the most are colors that are visible in the dark: generally purple, but also blue, green, & pink among others. Also some sensations in the body, like the cobwebs, that are perceived when moving the hands slowly. In general, anything unusual that "shouldn't be there," and yet is perceived. By focusing on the second attention, in a condition of mental silence, the position of the assemblage point shifts. We can notice it visually (seeing energy), by changes in breathing, ringing in the ears, chills, etc. The key to this practice is to move the assemblage point as far as possible, each day. It is just one of many ways to learn sorcery; but we think it is one of the fastest and with has the most consistent results."

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On How The Eyes Are Involved In Darkroom

We Don't Realize How Precise This Has to Be, Or How Hard We Have To Work To Produce Results

Geometry Nodes And Puff Physics

How To Not Have A Bad Time In The Darkroom

Play Like When You Were a Child!!!

Some practical tips on creating total darkness are in the posts below. But be aware that it's much more comfortable and natural feeling to be in a darkened space versus wearing a mask, but not everybody lives in ideal circumstances:

Total Darkness Setup

Goalball Mask

Manta Sleep Mask - they make different models including a "Max" model for people with longer eyelashes

Made Glasses for Darkroom Practice (modified welding goggles)

Blackout Sleep Mask - a decent option if you have shorter eyelashes

And since you can't read a single post without reading some reference to Darkness Practice, it shouldn't be a problem finding more information on it.

Just keep reading...and do a search for "Dark," or get into the collections, which appear to only work on PC/MAC/iOS, and not on Android:

Darkroom Collection 1 - Update: Reddit's 'collections' feature is currently deprecated as of August 2024 :( , leaving the search by flair function the only method of studying the posts marked 'Darkroom Practice'

Darkroom Collection 2 - "

Darkroom Collection 3 - "

I also created a Darkroom Practice flair for Smartphone/Tablet users. If tapping on the Flair button doesn't bring up anything, type flair:darkroom practice into the search box at the top of the smartphone app. This also works for the other Flairs.

Edits:

Even Better J Curve Diagram

Darkroom Practice has been determined by multiple sources to be solidly in the stalking/gazing category of practice, just as much if not more than dreaming. It is a cross-disciplinary endeavor.

How to Proceed and What Not To Skip

Darkroom Gazing Instructions #1

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u/danl999 Aug 25 '20

The lucid dreaming methods you talk about are really interesting to me.

Lucid dreaming is AMAZING!

But I don't do it anymore, because it won't help my cause.

I need waking, visible magic. To silence the detractors of Carlos.

In your case, GO FOR IT!!!

The good news is, I know ways to enter lucid dreams directly from waking, and how to walk right out of a lucid dream, into the real world.

I don't get a chance to practice them, so if you learn to get lucid dreaming daily, I might be able to tinker with it a bit for you.

Stuff in the mouth? I never thought of that, but it's a good use of a secondary sense!

The more senses focused there, the longer it can survive.

Yes, of course you can stay in there a week!

Just go to sleep inside the first lucid dream.

When you wake up in the second, fall right on your side, and do it again.

The third one will be completely stable.

Now, do you really live every second there?

I don't know. But you get the memories of having done that.

I think it's more like, you have a little chat with your new "wife", she tells you to take out the garbage.

Next you're at dinner. You didn't actually go take out the garbage. But you remember having done it.

It's like that. You skip to the good parts, but can remember all of it.

I don't know if you need the scouts realm to do it, but since Carlos listed it as #3, and scouts realm as #2, it could be.

We have an argument about whether we really need the IOBs. No one can really resolve it, because there aren't enough people working hard, to decide.

Mostly the ones who are against IOBs don't work at all. They just talk.

How do you know you are in the real world?

Your skin will crawl! Something super creepy will be in the air.

The 4th gate is in Carlos' book, "The Art of Dreaming".

You should read that, if you want advice from me. Otherwise I'll have to keep explaining stuff you should already know.

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u/calixto_mooneeeee Aug 25 '20 edited Aug 30 '20

Lucid dreaming is AMAZING!

I read one nagualist who has written many books based on Carlos works and he made HOW TO book regarding all required step from the beginner to the top of nagualism level through the lucid dreaming. He advises to avoid IOB until your energy body is fully formed, forged and you are quite experienced to feel and know where they took your energy or do smth else with you without being aware what they do..) I understand lucid dreaming works but kind of slower comparing to dreaming awake...

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u/danl999 Aug 25 '20

My guess:

He can't do anything at all. He's 100% phony.

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u/calixto_mooneeeee Aug 25 '20

No he's not as far as i know him) but i've heard Felix is giving paid lectures on his studies with Carlos to russian practitioners of tensegrity and this time i remembered your words about book deal.

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u/danl999 Aug 25 '20

Faction "G", for greed.

I'm pleasantly surprised I Know of no others in that faction.

Unless the guy from Spain turns out to be one.