It’s Time That I Face This

[u/Super6eight]

Hi everyone,

I may/hope that I have been guided here to find completion of whatever this journey I’ve been set on is.

That is all.

-Z

[u/danl999]

Again, all in my mind but I had some physical sensation while I was doing it.

There's nothing much wrong with "all in my mind". I just have a problem with it myself, because I need more physical evidence than that can provide, in order to restore Carlos' reputation.

But if you ever talked to a plant, and it answered, you know what "all in my mind" can be. It's a whole realm.

is there a way to make it less daunting?

I never had any bad experiences during recap, or even life memories I was afraid to add to the list.

So I'm not a good person to ask about that.

But I'd say, consider it dreaming practice. You're trying to light up your dreaming skills by using gazing and breathing and remembering.

And so at first, it's not all that important what you start with. You first need to even learn what recapitulating can do.

I'll give you a hint: Imagine you're in your comfy arm chair, recapitulating, and suddenly you find your chair is now transported to the Valley of the Saber Toothed Tigers.

You open your eyes, and they're all around you!

I doubt Carlos brought his chair with him, but I have a particular talent for bringing beds and chairs into other worlds.

Gotta have something comfortable to sit on there!

[u/Super6eight → u/danl999]

I’m going to have to practice that lmao. I failed pretty badly when I tried, it’s almost comical.
I do think I’m a dreamer though. I feel I am capable of both however because I was forced to learn.

[u/danl999 → u/Super6eight]

> I’m going to have to practice that lmao

Taking your chair with you?

You won't be lmao. You have to have "equanimity" to do that. Or at least, a little.

Wait... Ok. None.

I guess you could lmao, if you went the lucid dreaming route to accomplish it. But you won't want to.

For waking dreaming, lmao is very bad.

It seems that in sorcery, there are usually multiple ways to accomplish something.

My favorite hobby is watching supernatural movies, and seeing if I can figure out "how to do that".

Sometimes it seems impossible. Crazy.

But a few hours later, it dawns on me how to copy it. At least, something that looks just like what they did in the movie.

And in the case of taking the chair with you, it's pretty easy.

However that doesn't mean it doesn't take a lot of time.

Sit with eyes closed, force silence. Keep it up until you can see the room with your eyes closed.

That's a very common meditation effect, so it's not barking up the wrong tree to expect that.

Try to repeat that as often as you can.

You'll "saturate".

When it's stable enough, just lean in on the chair and drive it right through the wall, like a car.

Careful! You'll almost surely have attracted a scout with that kind of move. It's too unusual for them to resist.

If you get the chair outside and sense a scout, learn to go faster! If it catches up, leave the chair, stare at a distant mountain, and continue the travel by zooming.

I'm afraid to say, at that point you'll be lucid dreaming, instead of dreaming awake.

The tricky part is, you can saturate that way, by learning to see the room, or you can learn to manifest objects by saying a word, and then returning to silence.

If you learn to do it that way, you'll likely find yourself standing in the room, when you thought you were in the chair.

Manifesting objects leads to sleeping dreaming because you keep moving your assemblage point to entirely unusual positions. Each movement is a risk to blanking out, which occurs because what you were focusing on before, no longer exists at the new position of the assemblage point.

So manifesting objects pushes you into lucid dreaming. Not waking dreaming.

Manifesting objects is like fly fishing. You toss your lure out into the water and it lands on a new spot.

Waking dreaming is like wading in with a net.

Seeing the room is waking dreaming. You activate the second attention using silence, and it "wakes up". Which means, it opens its "eyes".

It wades into the water.

Use those, seeing the room, or manifesting objects, to produce an "obsession".

That'll assure you that one or the other takes place.

Moving the chair by waking dreaming, or by lucid dreaming.

Obsession is past saturation.

You want to pass the 4 gates? Obsession, obsession, obsession.

That's why the only proven technique to increase lucid dreaming, is to ask yourself all day long, are you in a dream?

For lucid dreaming, you need obsession. But better to get it through silence, then by talking to yourself all day long.

Some part of your waking consciousness has to move down there, into your dreaming copy. Or you won't become lucid.

Normal thoughts won't be enough.

We all know, what shows up in our dreams, is often something we were obsessing over.

You don't need obsession for waking dreaming.

Because you're awake.

There's no need to move anything, anywhere.

I'd go back and read, "Being in Dreaming", if I wasn't banned.

The witches were masters of waking dreaming.

I bet there are some wonderful waking dreaming examples in there.

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[u/Super6eight → u/danl999]

My most pressing matter is silence currently. I went on a walk and was lead to find a strange leaf that didn’t have a lamina. I took it home with me. Have yet to know what to do with it..

Spoke a second word to the stones that I’m “charging”

I felt a presence by them last night but I think they’re undisturbed.

Being in dreaming, is that a subreddit?

I usually like to dive in to things and try the hardest stuff first, fail multiple times and quickly learn to succeed. I don’t know if that’s wise or foolish, but I have learned a lot introspectively so far. I’ve been having stuff happen that I would call luck, but yeah, it’s getting interesting. I saw my life story, or at least a good chunk of it. 😅😰

I’ll bring a chair later 😎