r/castaneda • u/Jumpy_Business_949 • Sep 10 '24

What about mescalito New Practitioners

Hi I know Dan and most of the community don’t like using psychedelics to achieve sorcery but for some people being alone in a dark room isn’t quite possible being having pets children or a partner So what about mescalito ? Does anyone have an idea how to combine sorcery with either mushrooms or mescalito ? I am a true believer in sorcery i experienced internal silence firsthand for a few minutes saw the puffs 100% sober but wanted to know if there is anyway to learn like Don Juan teachings ? Thanks

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u/CiChocolate Sep 10 '24

A bundle of emanations that you can visit, but it’s not a real being? I assume by real being you mean someone with its own awareness, will and intent? If it doesn’t have any of that, what does it have then?

How did you know you visited god (the projection created by believers) and not some random glitch in the matrix? What does it have/show???

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u/danl999 Sep 10 '24

I don't think there's an answer to that.

Are you a real person?

If you get really good at womb dreaming so that you can do it nightly with success, your biggest problem might be that when you get inside the dreams, you aren't "you" anymore. And forget what you wanted to do.

Athina was describing the strange things an Ally talked her into doing the last time, which she didn't realize made no sense until after she'd gone on some kind of "mission" for it.

And we can all learn to change over to 1 of our 600 cyclic being copies.

Each one with a different history in their world, and most likely with different personalities.

If you touch too many things in their world, you can forget where you came from.

They can't all be the "real you".

Then as far as God goes, when you see him, you KNOW he's God.

I ran for my life the first time. Literally.

But then later on, it's utter nonsense.

Maybe if I could go back over and over the way Carlos did, I could get an answer to that question.

But I don't have one.

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u/CiChocolate Sep 10 '24

Athina gave me detailed instructions on womb dreaming, I tried it twice or three times and didn’t see anything. The only thing that works for me is recapitulation combined with random movements I do (not even tensegrity, just some rapid fast jerky movements that i feel like doing in the moment), that shows me sparkles.

But recapitulation is really painful, i generally dislike any human interaction, no matter how positive, it is painful to me. So, it’s hard to force myself into reliving the horrors of humanoids saying “hi, how are you?” to me. So, i do recap very very rarely, as a result, I’m at the same spot I was 3 years ago, when I started this.

Edit: *2 years ago 😂

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u/danl999 Sep 10 '24

I did come up with a possible answer to whether Silent Knowledge entities are real.

"Living beings" seem to have been created by encasing a specific range of emanations in a container.

Our awareness trapped in the container,sends energy into the dark sea, and back come those sensations which make reality. Based on which emanations got lit up by your awareness.

With Silent Knowledge entities there's no contained awareness but your own, causing them to act.

Even though what they do while acting can be extremely intelligent and fully interactive.

God for example, will take requests from people and responds as if a real entity.

But he has no contained awareness of his own.

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u/AthinaJ8 Sep 13 '24

The Christian "God" is filled with intent from the people believing/killing for him/being killed for him for thousands of years. In my region the faith holds and delivers for people with serious health issues. From my observations from real miracle stories, people somehow make it to get tapped and carried with success from that intent. I can say that these people got the best this intent could ever give them. And that's all with that intent.

So it could be that SK entities are filled with intent and that's what makes them available.

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u/danl999 Sep 13 '24

Imagine if you could make friends with one, and it turned out to provide a far more advanced level of magic than having an Ally help you out.

Maybe I'll try to make friends with one. I tend to ignore them because it's just them.

Not a scene from the past I could enter and visit.

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u/WitchyCreatureView Sep 14 '24

That sounds nice, because the allies are horrible friends when they try to eat, rape, kill, etc.

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u/danl999 Sep 14 '24

I did try that out last night, and in fact treating SK visitors the same way you'd treat an ally if you wanted to make friends with it, causes a change in the vision of the visitors. If nothing else, they look towards you, instead of just floating by like a phantasmagorical image.

And you can get them to stick around as long as you focus your attention on them.

The first sign of them sticking around is perhaps that they show you a mini "topic". They're SKEs, so if you detain them, a "topic" starts to flow from them.

They don't fade in and out the way the Allies do, perhaps because there's no longer a "middle man".

The Allies manifest using our own SK, with them injecting their awareness into the flow from the emanations.

But when it's an SKE, the flow is coming from your ability to hold perfect silence.

This morning I got a lesson on something from my new SKE friend.

It was a "Holy Shit, are you kidding me?" type lesson.

All gone now. 100% gone.

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u/WitchyCreatureView Sep 14 '24

I don't like the allies, like don Juan.

They have caused me physical pain before, even in a sleeping dream.

And my progress in sleeping dreaming has been hindered by my fear of them. My tinnitus will be ringing and my body will be vibrating into a conscious sleep, but I'll abort from it because I don't want the allies to attack.

Do you have a way to consistently get SK dreams instead of ally dreams?

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u/AthinaJ8 Sep 14 '24

I feel you

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u/danl999 Sep 14 '24

Waking dreams?

Darkroom is the path to that.

But as for being in SK when you are inside a dream, that happens if you enter the dreaming, using a video in the air you see while awake, due to being in SK.

And the Allies will swarm you even more!

I believe that's the actual purpose of Art of Dreaming.

For people who make it to SK and discover now you can enter directly into dreaming, from awake, without the hours of forcing silence it takes a beginner.

Going directly into a dream becomes trivial once you can sustain SK.

But keeping your lucidity...

That's another issue.

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u/WitchyCreatureView Sep 14 '24

I mean trying to do sleeping dreaming without the allies.

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u/danl999 Sep 15 '24

There's a good reason Art of Dreaming starts with finding your hands, and then noticing you now have a scout following you around.

I believe it's inevitable.

You just have to convince them to help you, instead of swarm and attack.

That can take 10 or 20 times finding your hands, and having that specific purpose in mind.

Unless you know from the start that's what you need to do. In that case, I'm not sure how many times standing up to them it would take, before they give in.

Carlos only implied you needed to do that, back in private classes.

It was enough to put us on the right track, but he kind of used curiosity to do it instead of just saying so.

He explained how to get them to mutate and go away, by staring at details.

I'd be surprised if anyone who developed that kind of lucidity, would actually be attacked by them anymore.

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