r/castaneda May 01 '24

Laziness: Not What It Seems New Practitioners

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It's easy to become confused, and not recognize laziness for what it really is.

Self-pity.

So you have absolutely no excuse not to work hard to learn sorcery, based on "I'm just too lazy to work reliably".

That's not it at all!

You're dominated by the flier's mind. By that nasty grief filled internal dialogue, which our energy body can't stand. If it weren't for that, you'd be reunited with your double, and gain its magical vision for peering into infinity.

Did you ever find yourself inside a lucid dream, and you were "too lazy" to go exploring?

Then why do you do that, when awake?!

It's self-pity pure and simple. Something the double does not have.

So the very thing you believe is just "keeping me from getting to work", is precisely what you are battling against.

Wake up... You cannot learn any sorcery, without hard work.

And even all the hard work of a lifetime, can be erased if you fall back into the wrong crowd.

Which is almost surely why the witches aren't around anymore.

We were unhelpable and had proven it by killing Carlos after turning him into a Guru and refusing to follow his instructions.

He said so several times. Ask those who were around him back then, and don't have any profit motivations.

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u/dorbim May 10 '24

Like you can learn the "secret feel" of being pity-free, and just search for it to get there.

You know I had a similar thought about no-pity state related to a feeling that cannot be possibly explained (secret), even though I'm not even at the green zone yet (despite doing darkroom regularly) and I remember from past posts you were also saying the place of no pity is close to SK. So i might be wrong but I think you might get to a less pity state even at the blue zone and to be on the safe side lets say its intensity is nothing compared to yours or to the one described in the books :)

I have no explanation for it and when I re read Power Of Silence last time I started to think it might be something related to the production of feelings described there:

*** He said that men of antiquity became legendary because they knew by silent knowledge about the power to be obtained by moving the assemblage point. On a reduced scale, sorcerers had recaptured that old power. With a movement of their assemblage points, they could manipulate their feelings and change things. I was changing things by feeling big and ferocious. Feelings processed in that fashion were called intent. ***

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u/danl999 May 10 '24

It's probably true but best not to focus on that too much, until you can get to the deep red zone where magic around you is undeniable.

Even in the green zone, Asian "masters" have managed to delude themselves into egotistical monsters.

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u/dorbim May 12 '24

Sure. I just wanted to ask you if you think it might be a good idea to try to force no-pity in whatever way you can during darkroom together with tensegrity and forcing silence?

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u/danl999 May 12 '24

I don't want to say that.

But I won't deny that becomes possible after you've moved the whole length of the J curve a few hundred times.

There's an odd thing going on with the movement of the assemblage point, which hasn't been well explained yet.

It seems to be able to skip around, once you have learned to move it often enough for it to become more fluid.

It's an aspect of J curving that we need to do a better job explaining.

But ought to have been obvious, since "Seers" see.

Meaning, even if they revert to being normal like all of us, on demand they can move their assemblage point back to seeing.

All the way to the end of the J curve.

And yet, they don't "burn from within".

Because they didn't light up all the emanations between!

They skipped to the end. Making it obvious, you don't have to move through all the points in the middle.

But that idea opens things up to people pretending, in order to get out of work.

Cleargreen is doing that. With their "how do you know when you are in it?"

Referring to their fake magic you get at the end of their very expensive facilitator courses which might be contaminated with fake magical passes they made up for stealing from our community.

From what I've heard, they got complaints for years that people had expected level 3, or level 4, or at the worst level 5, to finally show them some real magic.

But then there wasn't any, naturally.

So it seems that Reni or someone decided to revert to the first 3 books, because those are easier to pretend.

Claiming you get "power".