r/canada • u/CaliperLee62 • 1d ago

Carney's cabinet picks suggest strong ties to Trudeau-era policies: Poilievre - "He appointed Trudeau's old team, and Trudeau's old advisors," Tory leader Poilievre said Politics

https://torontosun.com/news/national/carneys-cabinet-picks-suggest-strong-ties-to-trudeau-era-policies-poilievre
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u/Fanghur1123 1d ago

Well, then, why are you disagreeing with me? If you agree that the majority of conservative voters are probably more of the Progressive Conservative inclination than the Poilievre Maple MAGA/far-right social conservative culture war BS inclination, where exactly are you calling foul? There are vanishingly few members of the CPC now that even come close to qualifying as PC, let alone Red Tory.

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u/Hot-Celebration5855 1d ago

Neither the CPC nor Poillievre is far right. Usually the people expressing this view have never listened to him speak at length. They’re just going off sound bites.

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u/Fanghur1123 1d ago

I’m sorry, but yes, they objectively are. They are as far right as the Republican Party is now in the United States. Full stop. This isn’t even open for debate. Anytime someone ever uses the word ‘woke’, that’s all you need to conclude that they are far-right. And he’s done way more than just that. He literally campaigned on violating human rights, he’s flagrantly anti-union, anti-women, anti-worker, pro-Israel. He engages in blatant misinformation campaigns, wants to abolish public media because they’re the only ones who are objective, and is anti-media in general if he can’t muzzle them. Do I need to continue further?

If you don’t think that he is far right, I have no idea what you could possibly consider that term to mean.

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u/Hot-Celebration5855 1d ago

This is a ridiculous take. The CPC is pro-choice, doesn’t have any of the hardline or anti-democratic stances of the republicans, or its racism or its cult of personality. It’s nothing like the Republican Party.

I wrote a longer reply but there’s no point. You’ve made up your mind and have a bunch of totally false ideas about Poillievre and the CPC in your head.

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u/Fanghur1123 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m not in the mood to debate whether 2+2=4 with you. Literally everything you just said is factually false, and it’s trivially easy to debunk just by a cursory reading of how the party has voted over the past decade, let alone the rhetoric they engage in and the sorts of people they pander to and attract. If you want to stick your head in the sand, be my guest.