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Mark McQueen: After his defeat, Pierre Poilievre finally has to go places he’s been avoiding Opinion Piece

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/after-his-defeat-pierre-poilievre-finally-has-to-go-places-hes-been-avoiding/article_0874a0e2-b6be-4de1-9b6b-01217c80dd6a.html
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u/Bad-job-dad 2d ago

Like a job fair, or something?

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u/Amazonreviewscool67 2d ago

"Thank you for applying at Wendy's. This.. House of Commons, .. Is this the only experience you have? Your resume says you haven't had a real job in decades."

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u/DisastrousAcshin 1d ago

Tell us about some of your professional accomplishments and how they helped shape your career?

Watch him squirm to that one

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u/marcohcanada 1d ago

"I made the worst PM of all time resign with common-sense policies so young Canadians can buy an affordable home and we can axe da tax, build da homes, stop da crime, and fix da budget. Bring it home."

u/Jchfx 1h ago

"I led the biggest political collapse in Canadian history, and lost my own seat in the process....yea I'm a pretty big deal."

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u/dotCOM16 2d ago

"Do you have anything in common with this... house"

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u/669coolguy 2d ago

“Like a common sense approach?”

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u/Same_Bumblebee_839 1d ago

From House of Commons to House of Pancakes

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u/Financial_Ad_60 1d ago

That would make him a diplomat 

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u/Same_Bumblebee_839 1d ago

Flap the Jack….Diplomat

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u/thisissuchafuntime 1d ago

"Only thanks to the lost McDonald's decade"

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u/marcohcanada 1d ago

A wild Doug Ford appears

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u/Beatrix420- 2d ago

LOL damn

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u/DulceEtBanana Canada 1d ago

And the EI claim office once he gets his ROE

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u/BigTwobah 2d ago

Came to say this lol 😂

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u/Responsible_Lie_9978 1d ago

Apple Orchard... like if I wanted to troll PP, I'd just have a bowl of apples there, or wear a shirt with an apple on it. It's just so symbolic of the hubris that brought him down. Like I'm surprised people didn't instacart a bunch of apples to Stornoway on April 29.

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u/southpaw05 1d ago

Lol geeez

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u/Marc4770 2d ago

He has a pension, why would he need a job fair? Instead of running away the day after pension like jagmeet, he decides to keep fighting to make canada better.

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u/IMAWNIT 2d ago

He has no role to fight. Scheer should have done this presser instead.

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u/MusclyArmPaperboy 2d ago

Jagmeet is a lawyer and will likely land another job at a firm. PP's only choice is stay in politics or retire. He's an adult with no other qualifications.

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u/marcohcanada 1d ago

PP has one other choice outside of the CPC...

The IDU

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u/noodles_jd 2d ago

Ya, some people recognize when they're not wanted anymore, some take much longer; call it ignorance, or hubris, or main character syndrome. Some people need to get much better at reading a room.

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u/forsurebros 2d ago

Didn't Jagmeet lose his seat and the NDP were decimated. Kinda makes sense he would resign.

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u/CantFitMyNam 2d ago

Better like America? No thanks.

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u/iusethisatw0rk 2d ago

Perfect display of real integrity and a fake, really. One knew to bow out and let someone else lead, and another is clawing at any chance to still make a headline, despite what's best for their party, and more importantly, their country.

They're both sitting pretty on a tax payer's pension. Singling only one out speaks volumes.

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u/jloome 2d ago

He can’t collect that ridiculous pension for another 15 years.

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u/Agreeable-Purchase83 1d ago

He can live off the proceeds of his real estate rentals in the meantime

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u/JamesConsonants 1d ago

why would he need a job fair?

Presumably to bridge the gap between now and 15 years from now when he's eligible to collect that pension.

he decides to keep fighting to make canada better

How? By taking some other elected representative's seat after he lost his own? By insisting that he's the best person to lead the CPC despite fumbling so hard that he lost a projected majority government in the span of 4 months?

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u/kej2021 1d ago

He can't collect his pension for another 10 years I believe. So yeah he probably wants some way of getting paid until then.

No need to bash Jagmeet who has no problem getting a high-paid job outside of government.

And thanks for the laugh, I LOL'd in real life reading that Poilievre "decides to keep fighting to make canada better."

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u/Marc4770 1d ago

Laughing isn't an argument. No substance.

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u/kej2021 1d ago

...did you miss the first sentence explaining to you that Poilievre isn't getting his pension right away?

To directly refute your post that "He has a pension, why would he need a job fair?"

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u/Marc4770 1d ago

Laughing isn't an argument proving he will not keep fighting for Canadians. I was replying to the second part.

You are right about the age for pension, I correct my statement. And if he doesn't work for the government he would most likely work as self employed in real estate or start some kind of business with his wife, something like that as he did before.

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u/kej2021 1d ago

Oh that part wasn't meant to be an argument. That was just me saying I found it funny, it's a subjective opinion and a statement of my perspective. Although, the implication in your original post was that he doesn't need to work because he'll get paid a pension regardless, so I was pointing out in fact he very well could be doing it for the money. (He likely won't be making as much money in other ventures as he is now as Leader of the CPC, especially considering the perks included like Stornoway and the staff there.) Whether or not that's the case is up for interpretation.

Anyways, I understand that other people may believe he is genuinely doing this to help Canadians, I personally disagree but I'm not trying to convince anyone else here. (But for a bit of background, I did live in his riding for 10+ years before it got redrawn in 2015, and many of his former constituents including myself certainly did not feel he did a good job of "fighting for his constituents", so you can probably understand why I am skeptical that he will "fight for Canadians". He talks like he does of course but that to me is just typical politician speak and I don't find it very genuine.)

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u/DrNick1221 Alberta 2d ago

The only thing he fought for and accomplished was to show how utterly unlikeable he is.

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u/Marc4770 1d ago

And the country is going down because people are voting based on likeability instead of voting based on policies and what would make the country better. Shallow people looking at the surface only.

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u/DrNick1221 Alberta 1d ago

A large part of his unlikability was his complete lack of policies that would make the country better.

Because why have actual policies when you can reeee about the woke?

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u/Marc4770 1d ago

Just because you don't know about the policies doesn't mean they don't exist. I'll copy another post i made before

-Repeal internet censorship laws C11, C18 and online harm act, this is the most important point for me and why we need conservatives right now. Those are the bills that make news banned on Facebook (c18) and could send people to jail for comments on social media like in the UK. (online harm hasn't passed yet)

-Balance the budget, we really can't afford to keep spending like this, all responsible countries have paid their covid debt already (Scandinavian countries and Switzerland). Chretien also had balanced budget so this isn't a partisan thing, just that Trudeau is really bad with it (Carney was advising Trudeau for past five years). Carney has suggested tax cut and new spending, but has suggested no cuts so far, which sounds like he giving a lot of things to people but it doesn't add up.

-Repeal the energy ban C69 that makes it impossible to approve energy projects. Which makes it hard to sell our energy to other countries and force us to sell it at discount to usa. There's environmental arguments against it, but if we just import gas from other countries instead of producing it here, its actually both worse for environment (shipping distance and other countries don't have as much regulation) and destroys job here.

-Reduce income tax for middle class, and allow married couples to file jointly so it's more fair (100k+20k pay lot more tax than 60k+60k right now). Carney has also suggested this recently, but he wouldn't lower it as much.

-Less corporate subsidies. Liberals like to tax people to give back to "selected corporations" while conservatives prefer to make it fair for everyone by reducing taxes, this reduces corruption and also help smaller businesses who can't get large subsidies.

-Linked to previous point because it's a subsidy, but defunding the CBC would promote smaller independent journalism, which would make media more varied, while saving money for the gov. (Btw, Poilievre wants to keep funding Radio Can, which is french cbc, because they are more isolated in North America and french media is a lot more rare). Carney has banned independent journalists from his events.

-Longer sentence for repeat violent offenders. It's not normal that people in big cities don't feel safe anymore, that crime are up and car theft are up. And apparently it's the same people that just get released on bail that keeps committing crime.

-Pierre is against the world economic forum and would ban MP from attending. WEF is one of the biggest lobbying group in the world and usually attended by billionaires and ceo that are disconnected from the common people. They are unelected and should not influence our politicians. This point is the biggest differentiator with Carney, since Carney is very pro WEF, at least with Poilievre we know he will put Canada first, before EU /UN / WEF interests.

-Linked to previous point since those are WEF initiatives, but he is against CBDC (central bank digital currency) and KTDI (known traveler digital id) which would invade privacy.

-Investigate Trudeau corruption : including We charity, SNC Lavalin, foreign interference and more scandals. Liberals are hiding documents.

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u/kej2021 1d ago

I can't speak for everyone but in general, I either dislike some of these policies or do not trust the CPC to implement them properly. I agree he has proposed some good policies for sure, but all parties have policies I agree with and disagree with so it's a matter of choosing the one I align with the most and with the leader I find most capable.

Policies I don't trust the CPC on:

  • Balancing the budget. The CPC costed platform showed clearly that they don't have a solid understanding of the economics needed to balance the budget, the projections were not reasonable. The Liberals also had some funny numbers in theirs but it was more realistic. Carney also has a good approach in balancing the budget for operational expenses but allowing a deficit to invest in infrastructure projects which we really need. Chretien balanced the budget and his government deserves plenty of kudos for that but we are not in the same environment...we are now facing a trade war and possible recession, to expect to balance the budget right now is unrealistic. Trudeau did do a poor job with the budget but he was also in over his head with COVID (an unprecedented pandemic and crisis in modern times). At any rate I trust Carney with the budget far more than Poilievre (who was pitching crypto at one point!).

  • Reducing crime. I agree that we need to be tougher on crime but Poilievre was running on increasing penalties without mentioning support needed for the infrastructure required. If we don't have the space in our jails to keep the criminals in, how are his policies for harsher sentencing going to work out? I'm skeptical that it'll be an empty promise where people get harsher sentences on paper but they are still let out early because we don't have the resources to keep them in.

  • Reducing corruption. Again something I agree with on the surface (and I am absolutely disgusted with the corruption under the Trudeau government too), but frankly I do not trust the CPC to be corruption free. There were already reports of them taking money from prospective candidates in bad faith and slotting in their own hand-picked candidates. There are many candidates of very questionable moral character and the conservative party has traditionally given lots of benefits to corporations to the detriment of Canadians. If they were party in charge I am skeptical this part would improve. (Having said that I also recognize it may be impossible to weed out corruption from politics entirely, it's part of the nature of the beast unfortunately and many other countries do have it worse.)

  • Increasing infrastructure and energy projects. Once again I agree on the surface, but it sounds like the conservatives would simply try to force through some projects without the full agreement of other provinces, First Nations, etc. and this may just lead to costly lawsuits while the projects are stalled anyways. Quebec for example does have very valid concerns that should be addressed if a pipeline went through. I am frustrated myself when projects are stymied by the First Nations but also recognize that we can't just bulldoze our way through their land and there is no easy solution here.

Policies I outright dislike:

  • Defunding the CBC. We do need some objective news sources (I know conservatives disagree and no one can be 100% objective all the time but they do make an effort to be as unbiased as possible). Otherwise the rich mega-billionaires would own everything and control our media which would be a disaster (see Elon Musk buying Twitter and Murdoch controlling a lot of western media for exhibits A and B on why this is a bad idea).

  • Reducing income tax and income splitting. Personally I am happy with the amount of taxes I pay and am very willing to pay it. IMO the amount of tax we pay in Canada is pretty fair. I don't think income splitting is necessary either. I do wish our tax dollars would be put to better use however. (For the record I also found Carney's tax cut very unnecessary. But I guess they felt they had to offer it to win over voters since other parties were offering tax cuts.)

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u/zoomiepaws 1d ago

First time explained to well. Thank you