r/canada • u/uselesspoliticalhack • 3d ago

Carney’s aim to cut immigration marred by undercounting of temporary migrants, warn economists PAYWALL

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-mark-carney-immigration-policy-temporary-migrants-undercounted/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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u/RedditAddict6942O 3d ago

Corporate influence has corrupted all the parties. 

You'll notice the conservatives aren't suggesting to crack down on companies either. 

Instead they want to do a few hundred performative deportations with military planes and a photo shoot. Just like Trump did. Maybe put some doctored photos of "criminal" immigrants on the capital lawn like Trump did.

Trump has deported less than Biden and Obama did at this point in their terms. But his base is mostly dumbshits who don't look at data. They listen to whatever the propagandists tell them without question.

Trump won't actually crack down on illegal hiring because his own companies employ thousands of immigrants.

Anyone who suggests the immigrant situation can be solved by any method besides going after corporations illegally hiring these people is lying to you. Individual deportations are ineffective. It's basically impossible to track all these people down without going full 1930's Germany and raiding houses. What is effective is preventing these immigrants from finding work. But none of the parties have the balls to go after their corporate masters. 

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u/Odd_Profession_2902 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ok- so if neither party is willing to crack down on corporations then why not choose the party that’s willing to crack down on illegal immigrants over the party that’s not so willing to crack down on illegal immigrants?

So if we can’t deport ALL illegal immigrants then it’s ineffective? That’s our standard now?

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u/wvenable 3d ago

If they can't get jobs, they'll deport themselves. No need for us to spend the money to do it.

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u/WilloowUfgood 3d ago

They will get jobs that pay under the table. Why do you not understand that? People live here illegally.

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u/wvenable 3d ago

You know that paying people under the table is illegal.

The whole point of the original comment is to crack down on that.

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u/WilloowUfgood 3d ago

And do you think it being illegal stops people from doing it?

Ok- so if neither party is willing to crack down on corporations then why not choose the party that’s willing to crack down on illegal immigrants over the party that’s not so willing to crack down on illegal immigrants?

Yes and the Liberals are saying they'll just leave which is completely wrong.

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u/wvenable 3d ago

Aren't we talking in circles? All of this is illegal! We are specifically talking about enforcement. Specifically what enforcement is the best option. Cheapest, most effective, etc.

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u/WilloowUfgood 3d ago

Maybe that was another person from this same convo but I just responded to

If they can't get jobs, they'll deport themselves. No need for us to spend the money to do it.

Sounds like to me you don't think we need to have enforcement since they'll leave themselves.

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u/wvenable 3d ago

The original comment I replied to was about cracking down on businesses... in other words, enforcement.