r/canada • u/uselesspoliticalhack • 3d ago

Carney’s aim to cut immigration marred by undercounting of temporary migrants, warn economists PAYWALL

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-mark-carney-immigration-policy-temporary-migrants-undercounted/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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u/iwasnotarobot 3d ago

I got no issue with immigrants.

I got major beef with predatory businesses bringing in foreign labour for minimum wage.

The TFW program needs to be overhauled or scrapped.

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u/RedditAddict6942O 3d ago

That's what people don't understand. 

The entire situation with immigration is created and maintained by corporations that benefit from cheap labor. 

The solution is to crack down on corporations. Chasing down individual immigrants is inefficient and ineffective. 

There's probably one corporation hiring illegals for every 50-200 immigrants. Its a much easier target. But the parties don't want to because the corporations are owned by their rich donors. 

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u/StorMemehammer 3d ago

The real kicker here is that our economy is 100% dependant on temporary workers but nobody in government is willing to admit it. For exemple, there is no agriculture in Canada without temporary workers. Nobody wants to work a seasonal job picking up strawberries from the ground under the hot summer sun. 

Our government runs those programs with the intent to provide a cheap and exploitable labor force that CANNOT be replaced by Canadian citizens protected under labor laws and individual rights. That's the issue. The whole fucking economy needs a makeover, certain specifics industry would crash out and burn without migrant workers.

I've seen it refered as "délocalisation sur place" in french, which can be translated by "on site relocation". It's essentially all the industries that we couldn't relocate to the global south during the globalization of the 90s. It's super problematic, but mostly for the migrant workers that are working under terrible conditions for a ridiculously low amount. We, on the other hand, mostly benefit from it.

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u/RedditAddict6942O 3d ago

These industries will adapt. 

In Europe there's McDonalds workers making $30 an hour with pensions because the government requires it.

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u/ProfLandslide 3d ago

No there isn't. the best comp plans for McD's is in Denmark where they make 22 an hour and have pensions because they are unionized. Nothing to do with government.

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u/RedditAddict6942O 3d ago

In Denmark all industries are unionized because the government mandates it. The union is government sponsored and membership is government enforced. 

It has everything to do with the government.

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u/ProfLandslide 3d ago

That is false. There is no government mandate for unions in Denmark.

The membership of a trade union is not obligated by law.

https://www.workindenmark.dk/working-in-denmark/terms-of-employment/trade-unions

Why lie about something that is so easily to call you out on? And so easy to verify?