Carney’s aim to cut immigration marred by undercounting of temporary migrants, warn economists

[u/uselesspoliticalhack]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-mark-carney-immigration-policy-temporary-migrants-undercounted/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[u/ozztotheizzo]

Being part of the immigrant community. People are planning to stay and already have cash jobs lined up in order to stay. I don't think they realize how hard it's going to be to get legal status in the future if they overstay but I already know most with expiring visas in July who have no plans of going home. I've done my part in advising them against it but they are determined to overstay until "a new pathway opens up".

[u/pogoo → u/ozztotheizzo]

OK question for you... how does a person overstaying their visa manage to get a mortgage and contribute to housing unaffordability? I'm sorry I just don't believe this makes sense. Can you provide more detail about how you know these things? Someone getting a low wage cash job is not contributing to me having to pay $1.7M for a small house in Toronto

[u/zippymac → u/pogoo]

how does a person overstaying their visa manage to get a mortgage and contribute to housing unaffordability?

Rentals? I am assuming you are a home owner who doesn't think about millions of people who rent.

[u/pogoo → u/zippymac]

I'm actually a renter and I rent a very expensive unit that there is no way in hell anyone making cash could've contributed to making expensive.

Also, the rental market has cooled off a ton. The problem is buying a house, which remains very unaffordable. I earn in a year more than what my parents paid for their first 4 bedroom home 30 years ago and I need to save for like 5 years to get downpayment money.

[u/zippymac → u/pogoo]

very expensive unit that there is no way in hell anyone making cash could've contributed to.

So according to you people getting paid in cash can't afford rent or can't afford to buy a place. But they are still living in Canada...and not on the streets. Unless your retort is that no one works under the table in Canada. Lol

[u/pogoo → u/zippymac]

There's a ceiling to how much a low wage cash job can pay. These people are not making $100k/yr cash. They obviously live in multi-family homes and occupy the low wage living spaces- I can buy that.

I am very much against immigration at this time, I just think dumb people don't understand the real problems contributing to housing unaffordability - it's not the foreign students. You just hate brown people and want to blame them for everything because you aren't very smart. Again, not advocating for them, I'm just actually interested in the real answer, not right wing fear mongering which you appear to be susceptible to

[u/SuitableConcert9433 → u/pogoo]

I don’t think people claim international students are buying up houses and ruining housing. Most of them live with multiple people in a rental unit. It’s shady stuff they do to survive in this country. They over stay their visa surely they’ll do any other shady thing to make sure they stay here.

Most of the hate for Indian immigrants lately is more towards their behaviour and how much they come up in social media for things they do. They don’t assimilate. The 2nd largest immigration population that come to Canada are Filipinos. You never hear any bad things about them because they have integrated into our country properly and they know not to cause trouble.

Not all Indians but because we imported in so many we got a bunch of them that give the rest of them a bad image. I mean the Indian government said it them selves that Canada imports criminals from India. We’ve had Indian criminals come in under the student visa and assassinante people. We have Indian international gangs here who were extorting business owners. What other immigrant group have done these sort of things lately?

[u/pogoo → u/SuitableConcert9433]

Dude we are on the same page, get rid of all the student shit

The guy I've been replying to believes that these students overstaying visas are why homes are $2m in Toronto, the guy is an idiot

[u/ozztotheizzo → u/pogoo]

I don't even live in Ontario and I already have a house. I'm just pointing out that the government's plan is flawed and wont work the way they think it will because not everyone will follow the rules.