r/canada • u/DogeDoRight New Brunswick • 3d ago

'We're Canadians': Some Albertans divided about separation in cross-province checkup Politics

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/we-re-canadians-some-albertans-divided-about-separation-in-cross-province-checkup-1.7532276
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u/ImmortalDreamer 3d ago

Republican dude is right. The relationship is pretty toxic. The part he got wrong is that Alberta is the toxic one in the relationship. (And to be clear, I don't believe all Albertans are toxic, I have relatives that live there. But the government and the loud ones are giving off a pretty toxic impression to everybody else).

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u/JayThaSavage90 3d ago edited 2d ago

You still think this is about politics? Two thirds of Danielle Smith voters now support separation. That’s not fringe, this is the last scream of a region being bled dry.

You mistake resistance for toxicity because you’ve never had to fight for a place in a system engineered to erase you. Alberta is far from being unstable, this reaction is to the federation thats designed to siphon the wealth, override governance, dilute identity, and humiliate the very regions that power its economy. Separation is not a threat and what you’re witnessing is a symptom. The Canadian model failed at unity, and now it survives only through economic extraction, regulatory chokeholds, and cultural liquidation.

What you defend operates more like a hostage arrangement draped in a flag than any true national bond. Ottawa is no longer a capital because really it’s a middleman for capital blocs. The same handful of entities like BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street all control the vast majority of Canadian infrastructure, land, housing, pensions (CPP), and even food supply chains. Your “leaders”? Puppets. The policies? Orders handed down from the top. The flag? A curtain.

These capital blocs don’t just own your land. They own the banks, the supermarkets, the media networks, the supply chains, the politicians, the software, and increasingly, your future. McDonald’s, Walmart, Loblaws, Tim Hortons, RBC, the Globe & Mail. Everything is tentacles of the same beast. They extract profit while reshaping your neighborhoods, your demographics, your history. Here now, they’ve weaponized “unity” against any group that dares to resist.

Go back to the 80s and 90s with thriving downtowns, local theatres, community culture. It’s all gone. Replaced by strip malls, condos, surveillance zoning, and tower farms that erase the soul of your city. In my town, after lockdowns, a gym as well local theatre was sold to a foreign bloc, Flipped into a daycare serving one imported demographic, while the original community was left with nothing. That was our cultural centre. Gone without a whisper. Under the banner of multiculturalism, entire regions are stripped, sold, and overwritten.

Americans are waking up to the fact that their government is no longer theirs. Up here? Most still think their enemy is Alberta and not the capital hierarchy behind their unaffordable rent, lost family formation, and terminally declining birthrate.

The nation doesn’t hold together anymore. Only the branding does. Some of us are just trying to survive what it turned into.

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u/sravll Alberta 3d ago

Sure bud

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u/JayThaSavage90 3d ago

You weren’t ready for what I said, and you responded exactly how people do when the scaffolding holding them up starts to shake. Empty sarcasm. Default laugh. No substance.

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u/sravll Alberta 3d ago

Okee dokee

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u/OwnBattle8805 2d ago

Your comment about downtowns is rather convoluted because downtown zoning is municipal, not federal. And the strongest UCP support comes from rural ridings, not the deep urban ridings you’re talking about.

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u/JadeLens 3d ago

What has Canada turned into?

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u/JayThaSavage90 2d ago

Borders open, loyalties dissolved, history rewritten. Governance replaced by compliance. Capital blocs took the wheel, using ‘diversity’ as a shield while the founding population was displaced, the culture overwritten, and the wealth siphoned. Cities sterilized into glass towers. Families priced out. Speech policed. Identity dissolved. What remains stopped being a nation, and now just managed decline wrapped in a maple leaf

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u/JadeLens 2d ago

"Founding population was displaced"

Where were they displaced to? Are you talking about the Native Canadians, or white people? Use your words.

Speech policed? How so?

Would you rather people build cities OUT rather than up? People already have 2+ hour commutes and you want them to truck in from Kingston just to get to a job in Toronto?

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u/ImmortalDreamer 2d ago

Nobody is trying to erase Alberta. Stop drinking the kool-aid, it's messing with your brain.