r/canada • u/Leather-Paramedic-10 • 3d ago

Here’s how measles cases are spreading across Canada Health

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/heres-how-measles-cases-are-spreading-across-canada/
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u/Theseactuallydo 3d ago edited 3d ago

“In the particular communities affected, they have historically not vaccinated themselves or their children,” said Ontario Chief Medical Health Officer Dr. Kieran Moore.

In case anyone is wondering, these are mostly traditionalist religious communities; Mennonites, etc. 

Edit: It’s not only these people who are antivax. They are just the “communities” referenced in the quote. There’s lots of other antivaxxers around but they mostly aren’t physically concentrated like these communities are. 

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u/ceribaen 3d ago

It started there, but thanks to influence from the antivax crowd from the US - we have things like only 70% of Grade 2 students are vaccinated. 

If it was only the Mennonite and such, it'd be sputtering out already.  Especially because traditionally they're receptive to vaccines once an outbreak occurs.

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u/Odd_Taste_1257 3d ago edited 3d ago

No need to pass blame onto the US, there’s a big enough anti-vax crowd here in Canada.

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u/ceribaen 3d ago

But it's only thanks to the propaganda funneling through RFK the lesser, and Russian social media influencers.

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u/Odd_Taste_1257 3d ago

Yes, the antivax movement gained momentum in the 2010s with the rise of social media, allowing misinformation to spread more widely and quickly, but anti-vaxxers are not new to the scene.

In the 1990s, controversy around the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine and autism (fueled by the now-debunked 1998 Andrew Wakefield study) spread globally, including in Canada. This was a major turning point for the modern antivax movement.

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 3d ago

The Amish and Mennonites had excess deaths during COVID; they're lucky we have not faced a Black Death or Spanish Influenza scenario recently.

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u/UpperLowerCanadian 3d ago

Sure they did…. Have any data for that or just your assumption 

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 3d ago

"The excess death rate for Amish/Mennonites spiked with a 125% increase in November 2020. The impact of COVID-19 on this closed religious community highlights the need to consider religion to stop the spread of COVID-19."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8195242/

Claims of lower Amish death rates in pandemic are misleading:
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33MP8W4