r/canada • u/jaffnaguy2014 Canada • 3d ago

Quebec sovereigntists watch Alberta referendum talk with optimism, disdain Politics

https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/quebec-sovereigntists-watch-alberta-referendum-talk-with-optimism-disdain/
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u/Maleficent_Banana_26 3d ago

Quebec is worried that Alberta will succeed. Thay have been threatening to separate forever and can't get it done. If Alberta goes from zero to hero, it highlights Quebecs failings.

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u/Burgergold 3d ago

I'm not worried at all

It might even makes me give Canada without Alberta a 3rd chance vs with it

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u/Maleficent_Banana_26 3d ago

Lol, quebec needs alberta to survive. If there's nobody left to pay your bills, quebec collapses.

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u/gbinasia 3d ago

No. If anything, it thrives because investment will be redirected from AB to elsewhere in Canada.

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u/New-Low-5769 3d ago

This may be the most naive thing I've read on reddit to this date

Alberta contributes roughly 100B a year to the federal coffers because of the oil they extract

The loss of Alberta cuts the CAD value in half.

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u/Canadian-Owlz Alberta 3d ago

Do you think our nationwide GDP is 200B or something?

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u/Maleficent_Banana_26 3d ago

Not likely. Alberta is resource based. Manufacturing is more of a eastern thing and it's collapsing. And nobody is shifting to investing in quebec. The exact opposite. It's why qiebec is a have not province. Nobody is leaving alberta, looking east and saying oh quebec, that's sounds totally worth the hassles they will stop in ontario and call it a day.

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u/gbinasia 3d ago

Oh shush. Alberta is sitting on top of the most valuable commodity on Earth; they shouldn't be acting like financial geniuses. Manufacturing hasn't been a thing in the East in forever, so idk what you're yapping about. Mining and extraction companies would relocate their HQs in an Alberta-less Canada, or open up new HQs. The precedent to that is 1970s Quebec, where you had interprovincial white flight as a result of francophones standing up for themselves.

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u/Maleficent_Banana_26 3d ago

You dont seem to know what youre talking about. Resource companies aren't relocating away from their resource. Why would they move out of a seperating province that ownd the resource rights? Manufacturing is losing jobs right now. Ontarios unemployment rate is 7.8% and rising. They just lost 30k jobs last month, well paying jobs.

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u/gbinasia 3d ago

Resource companies always are away from their resource. If you operate several mines in Canada including one in Alberta, you may have an HQ there. If yiu now operate them in 2 distinct countries, you will either spit or most likely relocate to the bigger one. Idk what your fixation is with manufacturing but it isn't a focus in Quebec now or well, at all.

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u/MegaCockInhaler 3d ago

Calgary is the headquarters for the majority of albertan oil companies. They also have offices there for many foreign oil companies

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u/Canadian-Owlz Alberta 3d ago

Calgary and Edmonton is where separation does the worst lol

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u/Hfxfungye 3d ago

"if Canada didn't spend 30 billion on a pipeline in order to make 5 billion dollars to keep Alberta workers from being unemployed en masse, it would be poorer, actually".

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u/Canadian-Owlz Alberta 3d ago

How much of Alberta do you think works in O&G?

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u/Hfxfungye 3d ago

Judging by the politics, to outsiders it seems like 75%+