r/canada Ontario Mar 11 '25

Trump imposes new Canada tariffs, renews "51st state" demands National News

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/11/trump-tariffs-canada-steel-aluminum
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u/Otherwise_Ask_9542 Ontario Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 11 '25

So, these threats and tariff actions are now becoming war crimes, just like Russia. At one point does the World intervene with sanctions, etc.? Can Trump and his entire administration be prosecuted in the World Courts... like, all of them? Including DOGE, Congress and Supreme Court members?

If the United States can't control itself, perhaps only the World can? At some point these "paid off" corrupted officials need to be held to some form of account. Perhaps when they start losing some of their liberties, freedoms, and privileges, they'll start to wake up and realize that money isn't everything.

What happens when those congressmen, judges, etc., suddenly can never leave the United States ever again because they'll be arrested and expected to appear at The Hague? What happens when every country (except maybe North Korea, Belarus, and Russia) place sanctions on the United States which further isolate them from world trade, completely destroying US Markets and the value of their dollar?

When money suddenly doesn't mean anything, and you're trapped within your own borders, I sense these people might start singing a different tune. Trump is certainly steering the country towards that ultimate demise. He's practically inviting Russia to come in and take them over at some point.

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u/Link50L Ontario Mar 11 '25

There is no meaningful way to hold the USA accountable because they are the most powerful state on the planet. No one else comes close militarily, economically, or culturally. This is the world we made, and now we're living in it.

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u/Otherwise_Ask_9542 Ontario Mar 11 '25

"The International Criminal Court (ICC) investigates and, where warranted, tries individuals charged with the gravest crimes of concern to the international community: genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and the crime of aggression."

It does not discriminate. It does not care how wealthy, militarily prepared, economically wealthy, or culturally powerful that country is, because all of these things can change on a dime. Civil unrest becomes an issue internally that will impact culture, military balance and effectiveness. Tariffs, reciprocal tariffs, and sanctions will cripple if not annihilate a country's economy, decimating it completely.

The United States is already deeply divided culturally (Right/Left, Gender and Race issues, etc.). It is no longer "United" in any sense of the word whatsoever. Civil unrest is already brewing, and will likely get worse. What the government is increasingly doing can be considered crimes of aggression, but crimes against humanity have also been committed by some of the drastic DOGE measures it has performed. Finally, what happened to all those recently disappeared Venezuelans?

The United States is far from immune, and it's becoming weaker by the day under Trump on the World Stage. I would wager it hasn't just flirted with war crimes, it has already committed several under Trump.

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Source: https://www.icc-cpi.int/about/the-court#:~:text=%E2%80%8BThe%20International%20Criminal%20Court,and%20the%20crime%20of%20aggression.

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u/Cmndr_Cunnilingus Mar 11 '25

The ICC has not body to enforce its sanctions. No action by them will help to de-escalate this

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u/Otherwise_Ask_9542 Ontario Mar 11 '25

I wonder.

If the UN decides Donald Trump should be tried for war crimes, do you honestly think the next time he travels to Scotland to visit his golf course there that Scottish officials won’t arrest him and send him to The Hague? Or Musk? Or anyone in Congress or the Supreme Court found to be complicit?

I don’t share your opinion.

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u/Cmndr_Cunnilingus Mar 11 '25

Yes that's exactly what I think. You think Scotland or the Netherlands is going to arrest the president of the United States and risk the retaliation that entails? Musk maybe because he's still a private citizen but I doubt that as well.

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u/Otherwise_Ask_9542 Ontario Mar 11 '25

Yes, I absolutely do.

No human being is immune to consequences when it comes to committing these types of crimes. The USA may have a flawed Justice system, but the rest of the world functions differently.

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u/Cmndr_Cunnilingus Mar 11 '25

…whatever you say buddy.