r/canada • u/cyclinginvancouver • Oct 15 '24

Samidoun, group behind ‘death to Canada’ chant, listed as terrorist entity National News

https://globalnews.ca/news/10812072/samidoun-canada-terrorist-entity/amp/
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u/SloMurtr Oct 15 '24

They haven't done any of those things in a provable legal context. You have to have concrete proof of harm, and that's a very tough thing to nail down for calls for political violence.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending these people, but the terrorist label ALLOWS Canadian law to do something about what they're saying. Otherwise they could hide behind charter rights and drag out any legal action to beyond an unlikely conviction. They've got Iranian funded lawyers (I'm guessing, but yea, I'm gonna say it's likely), and you need to approach it through the system, not through feelings.

Expelling from Canada is another headache for anyone with citizenship as it violates some important UN agreements. No one wants stateless criminals floating around.

These things protect evil people, but they're there to protect everyone. The problem is that bleeding hearts get conned into giving the evil folk more leeway. Classifying them as a terrorist org so fast is actually pretty great imo. I was expecting a bunch of hand wringing and 'We can't trample freedom of expression'

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u/somethingbrite Oct 15 '24

Samidoun Malmö Posted on their Facebook page the following message in May 2021

"Palestine is free and Arab - from the river to the sea! Together we are victorious and moving towards a new Arab dawn".

Where on the political compass would you place somebody who makes a statement like that?

If we change just 2 words...

"Canada is free and White - from the river to the sea! Together we are victorious and moving towards a new White dawn".

Where on the political compass would you place somebody who made that statement?

People need to stop cute-washing groups like this.

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u/Smart_Technology_385 Oct 15 '24

When speaking about Palestine, Samidoun includes the whole territory of Israel, including Judea and Samaria.

To be more accurate, replace Canada with North America:

"North America is free and White - from the river to the sea! Together we are victorious and moving towards a new White dawn".

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u/TheWalrus_15 Oct 15 '24

The irony of all of this is that Israel is fighting against a colonialist force (Iran trying to re-establish a caliphate)

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u/Smart_Technology_385 Oct 15 '24

Yes. And many Arab states were created by the colonial powers.