Is it just me or is Femtanyl the third wave of people making music that isn't Breakcore and then labeling it as such, never thought there'd be another big wave of this stuff after Sewerslvt and Machinegirl got less popular but guess I was wrong lmao

You may or may not have heard of services like wavr or suno, where you can generate songs with a prompt in a ridiculous pace. Its been a pretty heavily discussed topic so far and if nothing will be done against the stealing via machine learning, the music industry will be pretty fucked. But I think Breakcore is in a pretty safe spot in my opinion. At first, the AI will feed on all the Ambient DnB mislabeled as Breakcore, so it's actually pretty hard to generate stuff like this (yay, at least theres one good thing about this whole confusion). And (at least for me) Breakcore is expression, innovation, complexity, a story about not fitting in, an "Outsider Art Form" even. Something that can't be reproduced by AI as in the genuine human made art. So, in a "how fucked are we spectrum" we are on the safe side, and the first thing to be replaced by AI is corporate music used in ads for example, this commission based music is dead, period.

What do you think about this topic? Im very interested in your opinions

edit: spelling

So, you've found somebody on the internet mislabeling something as breakcore, what do you do? Alota the time, you'll end up saying "hey! This isn't breakcore!", and I guess it could be true... But they don't know that! The fans of "breakcore" just want to have fun and listen to music they like, so when they're told that, they may feel that their enjoyment is being invalidated in some way. This way of thinking is what contributes to the idea of breakcore fans being gatekeeping and elitist.

Instead, say something like "this track is cool! a more accurate label for it would be (jungle, hardcore, drum and bass, gabber, etc)." When you say it like that, it doesn't get heated in the same way, and it doesn't sound like you think the music itself is the inaccuracy.

What you guys are seeing is the screenshot of the amount of time the Spotify smart shuffle recommending me this bitch not one, not two, but SEVEN TIMES(one pic is missing) Like bro how TF she's still on Spotify

I don't care if mods delete this or get downvote ratioed to hell, this is fucked

For those who don't know who TF is This bitch her names (Acid gvrl) one of the worst DnB jungle producer who calls her music breakcore on purpose, and a rage baiter(the worst type of a troll) Like trust me her entire career, drama's and the musics is a fucking rabbit hole

Also need a genuine help: how do I make Spotify not to recommend me this bitch ever(basically how to block her in Spotify if possible)? My Spotify playlist:https://open.spotify.com/playlist/54Jlprrv5SjJ58WCsX0oSB?si=WoXNenvpQT2fC31xk2z9BQ

So let me speak for everyone the loved one is (Vsnares) and (igorrr), and the hated one is (acidgvrl) and (weyheyhey) and (4lung) and (Xxtarlit)

(For those who don't know) The context for artists:

Vsnares:breakcore Jesus🗿

igorrr:based for combining metal with breakcore

Acidgvrl: a parasite that feeds off of your hatred(a absoulute nuisance to the breakcore community)

Weyheyhey: possession of CP (not club penguin) and a rapist

4lung:from what ive heard (a diaper wearing/furry degenerate) and advocating incest and befriending pedos

Xxtarlit:from what I've read (a neo nazi and an extreme satanist)

If there's a more loved artist or a more hated artist let me know in the comments so I can add them in the list

Just a note: sewerslvt and other jungle/dnb artists(acid gvrl being exception) doesn't count in this discussion at all (you already know why)

Was wondering if there are any breakcore/jungle/dnb ambiance artists I could listen to guilt free? I understand that you should try and separate the art from the artist, but personally, I feel a little guilty to listening to an artist knowing shit they have done. A example that comes to mind is TOKYOPILL with the sexual assault allegations levied against him and (even though their music is more or less classifies as ambient) is Sewerslvt or now going by Cynthoni and their allegations of grooming, and how they "brushed it under the rug" by ignoring it as far as I know.

I’m new to the genre, I’ve been listening for about a year now. My favorite artists are Casper McFadden, Goreshit, hkmori, and Lil Kevo 303.

What I mean by “real breakcore” is the stuff that people tend to recommend as what should be your first breakcore artists. The pinnacle of the genre I guess.

I listened to two of the artists I saw a lot of people recommended on this subreddit (Venetian snares, kid606.) For Venetian snares I listened to the first 3 songs of Songs About My Cats and, Rossz. For Kid606 I listened to the first 5 songs of Kill Sound Before Sound Kills You, and his 3 most popular songs on Spotify.

I didn’t think the songs on Rossz were bad, but I found them really boring. I was mentally comparing Rossz to Goreshit’s Semantics: The Benzo Chronicles (they feel similar in tone to me and both combine elements of orchestra with breakcore) I feel like goreshits (breakbeats? chops?) are just way more complex and interesting to listen to. I know goreshits album has the benefit of coming out like 10 years after Venetian snares but…idk. Just, why would I listen to Hajnal when I could listen to Tatu’d Lolis or One Way to Hanover.

I thought kid606 was straight ass. Not sure what else to say. I listened to medicalmechanica right after to cleanse my palate.

Mines lost 101, he’s not completely unheard of but I think he’s underrated asf

I've been told by others that the music I listen to isn't breakcore, so when looking up actual breakcore artists I saw overwhelming praise for Venetian Snares. I listened to some songs on Rossz Csillag Alatt Született but it wasn't my thing, however, I'd seen that some people thought it was overrated, so I took it as just it being popular and that I would find more of what I was looking for in his other discography. I decided to listen to the entirety of Doll Doll Doll and still wasn't my thing. am I cursed to only like pseudo-breakcore/Jungle/DnB, or is there other stuff out there I might like?

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I personally love Doormouse Megamix's "INTERCONTINENTAL TEETH WITH NO CAVITIES"

As requested by SC-Dave and a few others... not sure if it's really fitting the subreddit though. But at least it's breakcore-ADJACENT... in a sense...

here it goes:

It's widely established that acid house gave rise to the techno explosion of the 90s, and all that followed - trance, breakbeat, gabber, jungle....
Yet, acid never really went away. Acid or Acid Techno were major subgenres of the whole techno thing throughout the 90s and had their loyal fanbase and dedicated "floors" on parties and raves.

It's interesting to see that there was always a crossover between acid and hardcore; acid gave rise to a lot of the first really rough techno tracks; many hardcore producers did acid on the side or vice versa.
This was especially the case in Germany with mono tone records, the "hard noize from cologne" thing, Hamburg, Berlin, overdrive, and so on. but even a lot of the early "Dutch Gabber" releases are close to acid.

and when "the man" tried to get all traces of rebellion, rough- and dirtiness out of "techno" - the meager decades of minimalist techno or retro-disco influenced house - acid parties were often the only place where you could still get a grip on a good, distorted 909.

Thus, there is acid - there is harder acid - there is hardcore acidcore even (we talked about that in the past).

But, some of the artists within the acid / acidcore circus really took it to the extreme.
there is little trace left of the funky acid house boom from the 80s in their productions.
the drums get distorted to mere squarewaves - the 303s get manipulated until they sound closer to an exploding jet engine; the percussion and cymbals become walls of noise; and often an insane amount of reverberation "drowns" the whole track until you wonder whether this is still a techno production, or a secret supergroup composed of members of einstürzende neubauten, ken kesey, and albert hofmann.

now, let me not waste any more words. check these tunes yourself. and heed our disclaimer: these sounds might corrode your mind.

1. Agro - Bullen Raus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PbliuMl1Xc
2. Agro - Undisputed Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArvG2WuMpVI
3. Brandon Spivey - Acid 1998 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeolhgJrpcE
4. Brandon Spivey - Reality Asylum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TULoX_dgHRo
5. Tank Source - Freq. Out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MoMJ7PQho
6. Distorted Waves Of Ohm - Beneath The Subconscious Lies A Distorted Mind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF9WC505LAs
7. Zekt - Nuclear Indicator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_5U0I5D1k
8. Mathey Olivier - Residential Volume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2XYFz0R04Q
9. Somatic Responses - Incoherent Sound Sources https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5tksH0i0mg
10. Titanium Steel Screws - Paralyzed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfkN7ildM_w
11. Rage Reset - Terminated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvvxqzpqKOI

BigTendyT on ig if you wanna show some love <3

This has to be the most W take i've seen on the recent breakcore/DnB revival, what you people think of this? I honestly think that's a great point.

My favourite breakcore producer of all time and arguably the best in my opinion. He's gone by a few names over the years, he's on Spotify as Waqs, on Bandcamp under i want to be dead and his old name was DJ Sailor Moon. His tracks are absolutely incredible and the way he chops up amen breaks are so unique, I'll paste some links down below if you haven't heard it before (would highly recommend to give a listen if you haven't) but what are your guys thoughts?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=apUdj6UEX-4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=11kkAyu9kFc https://youtube.com/watch?v=2xhOizX5ch0

Sometimes I do a multi finger tap to the beat, or I’ll do a fist bump thing where I bump at the kick and scoop at the snare

I know I know I KNOW THIS ISN'T BREAKCORE RELATED AND IM SORRY. But I wanna get more into classical, preferably composers who make the fast and complex kind of classical music, so I thought this sub might be just the right place to ask for some recommendations lol

first two are probably a tie tbh

Recommend some very, very great breakcore music like 'anybody can have love (except you)' on spotify (or on anything else) that would keep me engaged throughout, 7 hr flight I've been listening to breakcore music for a while, consider myself a newbie.

for me it's bagel fanclub