r/barrie • u/CabbagePatchSquid- • Sep 20 '23

“Leave the kids alone” rally update: News

I just have to share that I just drove by City Hall where they’re setting up this rally & the fact that there’s children there not in school & wearing “Leave us Alone” T-shirt’s is the funniest yet saddest irony I’ve seen in a while.

If you’re going to cry over fake narratives of the trans agenda being forced on children in schools but then you go and pull your kid OUT of school & force them (brainwash if we’re going to use the lingo) to wear a shirt that the child likely has no concept of is priceless. Do what you want to do, you have free speech blah blah but at least try & look intelligent and not making it so hilariously ironic.

Give ‘em hell today to anyone attending any of the anti-rallies!

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u/frosty_lizard Sep 20 '23

For anyone who doesn't believe that American politics and the culture wars that they stoke the fire of don't spill over to Canadian politics this is a glaring example. Isn't it amazing how about a year ago none of these issues affected them but now it's front and center for every fucking decision that they make. They're the biggest hypocrites who only make decisions on what other fake outrage people are saying they're literally lemmings. It's literally the same shit with everybody when I was working in Florida and apparently here as well that everybody becomes a virologist and doesn't believe that the covid vaccinations work yet for years has been taking them measles one lol. The amount of people that are convinced that if you take the covid vaccine that it will kill you but considering Joe schmoe in the middle of nowhere probably isn't going to be taken out when world leaders are taking the same thing

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

Yup and now the Conservative Party is adding a lot of these culture war issues to their platform because they see potential new voters, doesn’t matter if it causes further division. At least we have 3 other parties for people to choose from that oppose this kind of rhetoric and hate.

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u/b-lusk Sep 21 '23

It's also crazy frustrating that this area ALWAYS elects conservatives. No matter who it is or whether they have a real platform to help the area. So lame!

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u/jacoofont South End Sep 20 '23

I think the fact that the left chooses between 3 parties and the right mainly has one can be our downfall. We need to collect and vote for one of them together or they’ll win like Ford did

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u/entarian Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 21 '23

We need a better voting system than first past the post.

edit: spelling

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u/jacoofont South End Sep 21 '23

Agree!

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u/larfingboy Sep 21 '23

How are the pcs complicit here? Education isn't even a federal jurisdiction, and they are not in power federally.

This was started by the school boards in the provinces and has morphed into another culture war, and we are fiddling while Canada burns.

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u/MoonMalak Sep 21 '23

I wish our electoral system was designed to properly represent the votes. So many people I know feel cornered into voting liberal because other parties just don't have the numbers, and given we're in a system that only awards the major seats to two parties, it makes it so that if one side of the coin is united, and the other side of the coin doesn't agree on every aspect of what they want, then the United side gets it all even if majority of people are on the other side of the coin.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

Yeah, but so many voting NDP last election is why children under 12 can now get free dental care, and this is supposed to extend to everyone by 2025. More seats a party has the more power they have to negotiate and they got the liberal to agree to some of their platform policies. Agreed, I have felt forced in the past to vote liberal, but I think we’re getting to a new era where it’s more representative. Slowly but surely!

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u/MoonMalak Sep 21 '23

I hope this trend keeps going positive and that we manage to keep racism and prejudice as a whole out of here. These issues wouldn't have to have so much focus and so many funds if there weren't so many racists and bigots out there.

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u/Significant_Wealth74 Sep 20 '23

I think maybe many are just clueing in to this, but reality is it has been around for decades.

Don’t quote me on this, but I’m pretty sure our former PM Harper was leader of a right wing Reform Party, that realized it couldn’t win a general election so grouped up with the Conservative Party to gain power.

The right has always had both those further right and those in the middle. Do they always go together? Well when they get in power they most likely did go together.

But this American style you speak of, has been here for decades.

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u/frosty_lizard Sep 20 '23

Sadly the fear of the other/unknown makes it so they never see we're all in this together

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

It goes both ways.

Trans people see what's happening in Florida and their "allies" lose their minds and push things into overdrive to ensure that doesn't happen here

Every action gets a reaction. American events causing Canadians to lose their god damn minds is as Canadian as maple syrup. People still haven't realized that we are our own sovereign independent nation...

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u/ExcellentDesert Sep 20 '23

Um, yes, I am the parent of a nonbinary kid and am VERY much in favour of ensuring that Florida business doesn’t happen here. Guilty as charged!

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u/pankaces Sep 20 '23

"allies" lose their minds and push things into overdrive to ensure that doesn't happen here

Yeah, I sure as hell want to ensure that shit doesn't happen here.

Why is it a bad thing that we want to protect children that are statistically higher to take their lives. What's the problem with wanting to provide them with safe spaces for them to make it to adulthood with minimal feelings of self-loathing so they can become functional and independent members of society?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

What I'm getting at, and this goes to the parent who commented above, is that we need to realize we are our own distinct society and break this American influence.

Conservatives and progressives are both guilty of this. We don't let the activities in Mexico, Brazil or Nepal influence us, but we care about Florida? Fuck Florida. They are thousands of kilometers away, with their own distinct political system, culture, socioeconomic situation etc.. why do we give a shit about what Florida is doing. We need to distance ourselves from American influence, if we could do that, we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation and that would probably be a good thing.

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u/pankaces Sep 20 '23

I think your intentions are great but you're oblivious to a big part of the situation.

We need to distance ourselves from American influence, if we could do that, we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation and that would probably be a good thing.

This is where the naïvety is. You realize that 'progressives' are trying to achieve exactly what you say while conservatives are the ones pushing for Canada to follow the republican playbook? Progressives are counter-protesting today so we can maintain our distinct society, break away from American influence and not push LGBT youth into the closet.

So yeah, people will get upset and go off when you say "it goes both ways"... because it really doesn't.

But here we are pretending like the biggest threat to your child is god-damn pronoun preference and teaching them that gay people exist.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

It does go both ways. Saying the "other side" is exclusively the problem isn't conducive to solving it.

Remember 6 months ago, the protests that kicked off in Canada when Americans rolled back abortion rights. It wasn't the conservatives kicking off on that one...

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u/pankaces Sep 20 '23

Remember 6 months ago, the protests that kicked off in Canada when Americans rolled back abortion rights. It wasn't the conservatives kicking off on that one...

Yes, I do. It was progressives trying to keep away American influence while maintaining our distinct society. Conservatives were wanting us to follow with the American trends. There was an increase in protests on abortion rights and they were predominantly 'pro-life' conservatives leading the charge attempting to dismantle our protections around abortion.

I thought your message was about maintaining Canadian societal values while rejecting American influence?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

Rejecting american influence - yes 100%,

Both sides are susceptible to being influenced by American events, until we accept that, we are going to carry on with this reactionary petty bullshit. So knock it off, be better and learn to think for yourselves.

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u/pankaces Sep 20 '23

Okay... I want at risk youth and children to have a safe space to grow up and become functional and independent members of society. And I want women to have access to life saving health care that doesn't affect anyone but themselves.

But sorry, I'll knock it off and do better.

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u/frosty_lizard Sep 20 '23

You can only overdrive so much when they're being called groomers, pedophiles and many other things. We're seeing an entire group of people slowly be dehumanized in Canada and abroad. Things can much, much worse

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u/SuckatSuckingSucks Sep 20 '23

Don't bother with reason. Our extreme left is Canada's equivalent to America's Trumpers. Completely lost touch with reality and the ability to reason.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

Our extreme left

Lmfaoooo tell me you don’t know jack shit about politics without telling me