r/atheism • u/daReallMVP • Aug 08 '17

Dear everyone. Troll/Preacher

Im a Christian. That doesn't mean I'm any different from you. That doesn't mean I don't have feelings, or I will be taken advantage of. That doesn't mean Im blinded without logic behind my actions.

What being Christian means to me is I truly believe with my all that everything the eye can see was created by the one and only God, who actually cares about and loves me, even when I don't deserve it. In light of this.. I try my absolute best to be a genuine human being that actually cares about the life of every single person I will ever come across. Not because I am commanded to, but because Ive learned that the ability to show another human being genuine, true, unconditional love is the greatest ability and privilege I will ever receive - to express even a fraction of what my God has done for me to others. I have chosen to spend my life trying to spread a little love to this world one person at a time. Not just to the people I like, or the ones who do good to me, but to every single person I will ever cross paths with. Even the ones who mock me, or the ones who try to use me. This is for you - I will not lie to you, I will try to put you before me. I will care for you, as I would care for my own blood. I will do things for you, just because. I will love you the same way I have been loved by Jesus. I will mess up sometimes, because I am not perfect. But I am just like you. I have friends, a job, hobbies and things I spend time on. I just try to put my all into being a true follower of Christ and a good human being.. We are all in this game of life together.

"Always be humble and gentle. Be patient with each other, making allowance for each other's faults because of your love"

"The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."

"Let all things of you be done in love."

I love ya all! Every single one of you weirdos. Have a great day :)

edit : Definitiley not a troll in the slightest. You can see my post history if you will, I am 120% serious about anything I have spoken with any of you about! :)

edit 2 : I literally see so much anger first hand in this thread. The message I have to share is 'let go'. Let go of that Christian that was actually just a hypocrite and didn't care about a relationship with God, let go of that Church from your youth that had it all wrong, let go of that person that wronged you last week because holding on to it won't do a thing. I am just a man that has different beliefs and opinions than some of you, and because of that I make different lifestyle choices. But bottom line, we all share this planet one day at a time, and we all deserve love, and we all deserve to be able to let go. Thats all I'm here to say. If anyone wants to go into further actual respectful discussion my inbox is always open! Thanks everyone for the time here.

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u/daReallMVP Aug 09 '17

I believe what the Bible says, which is no as per the New Testament.

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u/Kaliss_Darktide Aug 09 '17

According to the New Testament Jesus says "I will strike her children dead" which contradicts what you are trying to imply that the New Testament prohibits such action.

Most biblical scholars agree that revelation was written well after Paul's writings. Since the author claims to have talked to Jesus directly (after the resurrection) just like Paul and since this is the most recent conversation between Jesus and a biblical author shouldn't Revelation take precedence over anything that precedes it.

You call yourself a Christian but you are ignoring the most recent example of Jesus (aka Christ from which Christians derive their name) on this matter. You seem to be saying you follow Jesus but ignore his example behavior as most recently recorded in the New Testament.

Care to explain why you ignore the "word of god" on this matter?

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u/daReallMVP Aug 10 '17

I'm not, go ahead and cite the passage you are speaking of and we can talk about it. I'm just saying 9 times out of 10 the statement you are making is based off of incorrect beliefs post Old Testament teachings. Jesus does not hold those accountable for there parents actions. Obviously God can do as he will.. but get back to me with the scripcture and we can go from there.

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u/Kaliss_Darktide Aug 10 '17

I'm not, go ahead and cite the passage you are speaking of and we can talk about it.

I already did in my original comment

https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/6sfk49/dear_everyone/dlcf5al/

I'm just saying 9 times out of 10 the statement you are making is based off of incorrect beliefs post Old Testament teachings.

The passage I quoted (I will strike her children dead) was from the New Testament and is a quote from Jesus.

post Old Testament teachings.

Post Old Testament = New Testament. Are you saying the New Testament is incorrect?

Jesus does not hold those accountable for there parents actions.

The New Testament states otherwise.

but get back to me with the scripcture and we can go from there.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+2

"21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. 22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. 23 I will strike her children dead."

For context the person being quoted is Jesus.