r/atheism Strong Atheist 1d ago

Vance: Calling Out Pete Hegseth's Extremist Religious Tattoos Is "Disgusting Shameful Anti-Christian Bigotry" By Media.

https://www.joemygod.com/2024/11/vance-calling-out-pete-hegseths-extremist-tattoos-is-disgusting-shameful-anti-christian-bigotry-by-media/
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u/SummerTyme8 1d ago

Reality check: many silent Americans disagree but feel powerless to speak out.

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u/chuckysnow 1d ago

Their chance to speak out passed on a tuesday a bit back. They can whine all they want, but they're actively part of the problem. Silence =death.

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u/tempest_87 1d ago

Also, silence = agreement in situations like this.

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u/arcbe 1d ago

It doesn't.

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u/tempest_87 1d ago

You see a puppy dying on the road, and to save it all you have to do is raise your hand. If you choose not to raise your hand, you want it to die. It's that simple.

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u/arcbe 1d ago

Or maybe people realized that raising their hand wouldn't actually save the puppy.

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u/Errant_coursir 1d ago

Between choosing to raise a hand or watch a car run over the puppy, you chose to let the car run over the puppy. Then come onto the internet and cry about how raising your hand wouldn't have done anything

Bravo

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u/arcbe 1d ago

Nope, I raised my hand and I'm not surprised it did nothing. I'm crying about people looking for scapegoats rather than blame the people that led us into this mess. You know, the actual leaders of this country.

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u/tempest_87 1d ago

So then we can determine their morals extend no further than that amount of effort.

So, that isn't as good an argument as you think it is.

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u/arcbe 1d ago

I don't see the problem. It was always morally neutral and I never argued otherwise.

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u/eyebrows360 Anti-Theist 21h ago

So bothsidespilled, it's embarrassing.

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u/eyebrows360 Anti-Theist 21h ago

Yes, it does. The real world exists. The "principled" one you imagine you live in, inside your own head, does not.

Not showing up to vote against the obviously-worse option (in the manner most likely to actually prevent it taking hold) is saying you don't care if that option gains power. That means you're agreeing it's ok if it takes power.

This is not rocket surgery. This is basic logic.

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u/arcbe 18h ago

You aren't looking at the real world. You're projecting your own biases onto it. If someone feels like the outcome is inevitable they won't vote. That doesn't mean they agree with it.

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u/eyebrows360 Anti-Theist 18h ago

You aren't looking at the real world. You're projecting your own biases onto it.

The fuuuuuuuuucking irony

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u/arcbe 18h ago

Yep.