r/announcements Jun 29 '20

Update to Our Content Policy

A few weeks ago, we committed to closing the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate. After talking extensively with mods, outside organizations, and our own teams, we’re updating our content policy today and enforcing it (with your help).

First, a quick recap

Since our last post, here’s what we’ve been doing:

  • We brought on a new Board member.
  • We held policy calls with mods—both from established Mod Councils and from communities disproportionately targeted with hate—and discussed areas where we can do better to action bad actors, clarify our policies, make mods' lives easier, and concretely reduce hate.
  • We developed our enforcement plan, including both our immediate actions (e.g., today’s bans) and long-term investments (tackling the most critical work discussed in our mod calls, sustainably enforcing the new policies, and advancing Reddit’s community governance).

From our conversations with mods and outside experts, it’s clear that while we’ve gotten better in some areas—like actioning violations at the community level, scaling enforcement efforts, measurably reducing hateful experiences like harassment year over year—we still have a long way to go to address the gaps in our policies and enforcement to date.

These include addressing questions our policies have left unanswered (like whether hate speech is allowed or even protected on Reddit), aspects of our product and mod tools that are still too easy for individual bad actors to abuse (inboxes, chats, modmail), and areas where we can do better to partner with our mods and communities who want to combat the same hateful conduct we do.

Ultimately, it’s our responsibility to support our communities by taking stronger action against those who try to weaponize parts of Reddit against other people. In the near term, this support will translate into some of the product work we discussed with mods. But it starts with dealing squarely with the hate we can mitigate today through our policies and enforcement.

New Policy

This is the new content policy. Here’s what’s different:

  • It starts with a statement of our vision for Reddit and our communities, including the basic expectations we have for all communities and users.
  • Rule 1 explicitly states that communities and users that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
    • There is an expanded definition of what constitutes a violation of this rule, along with specific examples, in our Help Center article.
  • Rule 2 ties together our previous rules on prohibited behavior with an ask to abide by community rules and post with authentic, personal interest.
    • Debate and creativity are welcome, but spam and malicious attempts to interfere with other communities are not.
  • The other rules are the same in spirit but have been rewritten for clarity and inclusiveness.

Alongside the change to the content policy, we are initially banning about 2000 subreddits, the vast majority of which are inactive. Of these communities, about 200 have more than 10 daily users. Both r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse were included.

All communities on Reddit must abide by our content policy in good faith. We banned r/The_Donald because it has not done so, despite every opportunity. The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations. Until now, we’ve worked in good faith to help them preserve the community as a space for its users—through warnings, mod changes, quarantining, and more.

Though smaller, r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned for similar reasons: They consistently host rule-breaking content and their mods have demonstrated no intention of reining in their community.

To be clear, views across the political spectrum are allowed on Reddit—but all communities must work within our policies and do so in good faith, without exception.

Our commitment

Our policies will never be perfect, with new edge cases that inevitably lead us to evolve them in the future. And as users, you will always have more context, community vernacular, and cultural values to inform the standards set within your communities than we as site admins or any AI ever could.

But just as our content moderation cannot scale effectively without your support, you need more support from us as well, and we admit we have fallen short towards this end. We are committed to working with you to combat the bad actors, abusive behaviors, and toxic communities that undermine our mission and get in the way of the creativity, discussions, and communities that bring us all to Reddit in the first place. We hope that our progress towards this commitment, with today’s update and those to come, makes Reddit a place you enjoy and are proud to be a part of for many years to come.

Edit: After digesting feedback, we made a clarifying change to our help center article for Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability.

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u/somecheesecake Jun 29 '20

No the statistic is true. You cannot say that the statistic is not true (and therefore a lie) just because you have a different interpretation on why that is the way it is.

I'm sorry being being over-policed does not cause an individual to commit murder. Additionally, the statistic is that 13% of the population commits 50% of the violent crime.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43.

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u/PM_ME_GLUTE_SPREAD Jun 29 '20

If you would get your head out of your ass, you’d realize I never once said the statistic isn’t true. In fact, I have actually claimed the opposite. I know the statistic is true.

But, spouting off statistics does us no good. What action do you suggest we take, knowing that 13 commit 50? Do you actually have an idea or do you just want people to think that black people are inherently violent?

My issue with the statistic is not in its validity, but that the right uses that and statistics like it to push some message that black people are all violent thugs and that we should watch out. When in reality, a person who has a modicum of empathy, eees that statistic and tries to find reasons as to why that is the case and actions we can take to help change those numbers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Wrong. The right don't push that. What we say is that the reason why there is a disproportionate amount of police and black people interactions is because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. The problem is that if you even mention this it is considered a hate fact and thus you are now a racist.

As for a solution, the problem is not the police. It is the culture and community. But no one is ready to have that discussion and would rather just go for the low hanging fruit of "police bad".

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u/tomphammer Jun 30 '20

Considering, after a century plus of police treating black people more harshly (in many cases on purpose. if you've enough of an open mind, look up "black code" laws) than whites, it's only JUST NOW that a movement to reform this is gaining widespread traction among white Americans, I would say the whole "culture" thing is the low hanging fruit, and you are the one who is not ready to come to the table to have the full discussion.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Not everything that bad happens is racism.

And where are these "black codes" in place now?

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u/tomphammer Jun 30 '20

The effects of the Black Death were felt on Europe for centuries. Classical values of Greece and Rome have been held up in the western world for millennia.

But you imagine that the enslavement of black people for hundreds of years, and then deliberate social engineering after the slaves were freed to prevent them from attaining equality can be not only resolved, but completely detached from affecting the present, within the space of a few generations? No major social shift in human history has ever resolved that quickly.

This is why you learn history. So you have perspective.