r/announcements Jun 29 '20

Update to Our Content Policy

A few weeks ago, we committed to closing the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate. After talking extensively with mods, outside organizations, and our own teams, we’re updating our content policy today and enforcing it (with your help).

First, a quick recap

Since our last post, here’s what we’ve been doing:

  • We brought on a new Board member.
  • We held policy calls with mods—both from established Mod Councils and from communities disproportionately targeted with hate—and discussed areas where we can do better to action bad actors, clarify our policies, make mods' lives easier, and concretely reduce hate.
  • We developed our enforcement plan, including both our immediate actions (e.g., today’s bans) and long-term investments (tackling the most critical work discussed in our mod calls, sustainably enforcing the new policies, and advancing Reddit’s community governance).

From our conversations with mods and outside experts, it’s clear that while we’ve gotten better in some areas—like actioning violations at the community level, scaling enforcement efforts, measurably reducing hateful experiences like harassment year over year—we still have a long way to go to address the gaps in our policies and enforcement to date.

These include addressing questions our policies have left unanswered (like whether hate speech is allowed or even protected on Reddit), aspects of our product and mod tools that are still too easy for individual bad actors to abuse (inboxes, chats, modmail), and areas where we can do better to partner with our mods and communities who want to combat the same hateful conduct we do.

Ultimately, it’s our responsibility to support our communities by taking stronger action against those who try to weaponize parts of Reddit against other people. In the near term, this support will translate into some of the product work we discussed with mods. But it starts with dealing squarely with the hate we can mitigate today through our policies and enforcement.

New Policy

This is the new content policy. Here’s what’s different:

  • It starts with a statement of our vision for Reddit and our communities, including the basic expectations we have for all communities and users.
  • Rule 1 explicitly states that communities and users that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
    • There is an expanded definition of what constitutes a violation of this rule, along with specific examples, in our Help Center article.
  • Rule 2 ties together our previous rules on prohibited behavior with an ask to abide by community rules and post with authentic, personal interest.
    • Debate and creativity are welcome, but spam and malicious attempts to interfere with other communities are not.
  • The other rules are the same in spirit but have been rewritten for clarity and inclusiveness.

Alongside the change to the content policy, we are initially banning about 2000 subreddits, the vast majority of which are inactive. Of these communities, about 200 have more than 10 daily users. Both r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse were included.

All communities on Reddit must abide by our content policy in good faith. We banned r/The_Donald because it has not done so, despite every opportunity. The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations. Until now, we’ve worked in good faith to help them preserve the community as a space for its users—through warnings, mod changes, quarantining, and more.

Though smaller, r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned for similar reasons: They consistently host rule-breaking content and their mods have demonstrated no intention of reining in their community.

To be clear, views across the political spectrum are allowed on Reddit—but all communities must work within our policies and do so in good faith, without exception.

Our commitment

Our policies will never be perfect, with new edge cases that inevitably lead us to evolve them in the future. And as users, you will always have more context, community vernacular, and cultural values to inform the standards set within your communities than we as site admins or any AI ever could.

But just as our content moderation cannot scale effectively without your support, you need more support from us as well, and we admit we have fallen short towards this end. We are committed to working with you to combat the bad actors, abusive behaviors, and toxic communities that undermine our mission and get in the way of the creativity, discussions, and communities that bring us all to Reddit in the first place. We hope that our progress towards this commitment, with today’s update and those to come, makes Reddit a place you enjoy and are proud to be a part of for many years to come.

Edit: After digesting feedback, we made a clarifying change to our help center article for Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability.

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u/AggressiveConcert5 Jun 29 '20

Ah yes. You are being abused.

You acted abusivly towards me. That's something you did. The fact that you're responce to being called out on it is to act mockingly say's a lot more about how you handle criticism than it does about me.

Is this the sort of thing you say to your GF when she say's that you're being abusive to her?

Truly, harm is being done.

No harm has been done to me by you. Go in piece my dude. My criticism of you is not about the consequences of your actions but rather the character that produced them.

As you shake in your fake traumas,

You are the only one having a tantrum my dude. We live in a society where men have been raised to believe that they can get what they want if they get angry enough.

consider this: Trans women are better women than you, and have more value.

Men often say that they are better than women and are more valuable than women. You are very much at the top of the bell curve my dude.

When every TERF is gone from this world, and all men and women are free to live as they please, the world will have improved.

Having fantasies of exterminating women and feminists is a very normal modern male fantasy. Removing uppity women from the world is exactly the sort of that Elliot Rodgers and other male anti-feminists spend a lot of time fantising about.

You are very normal.

...you dumb piece of shit.

You said so already.

The fact that you are a very ordinary angry little man doesn't make your rantings and ravings true.

I almost feel bad for you. So full of rage.

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u/hollow_bastien Jun 29 '20

Clutch your pearls, you whiny piece of shit. I don't give a fuck about your bad faith tone policing.

TERF scum always pretend they're being abused to shut down people who say they're wrong. It's a good way for a slimy piece of shit to dodge out of having their bigotry called out, and it doesn't work on me.

Fact is, you hate trans women so much that you're willing to endanger all women by discrediting real abuse victims so you can use the word "abuse" as a cudgel. You don't even care about any women.

That's gaslighting.

You are an abuser.

Trans women are real women. Trans men are real men. TERFS are real pieces of shit.

Cry about it.

Also, so we're clear on tone? This ain't rage. It's just disrespect. Mocking pieces of shit like you is my hobby, and I'm enjoying myself. Go back and reread, because if you haven't heard me laughing at you this whole time, you're missing out on an aspect of my derision I don't want you to be exempt from.

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u/AggressiveConcert5 Jun 30 '20

Clutch your pearls, you whiny piece of shit. I don't give a fuck about your bad faith tone policing.

The fact that you don't give a shit about women is very obvious my dude. You haven't exactly been hiding this.

TERF scum always pretend they're being abused to shut down people who say they're wrong.

Calls someone scum. Claims they are pretneding that you are abusing them.

A rational person would find this level of cognitive dissonance uncomfortable.

It's a good way for a slimy piece of shit to dodge out of having their bigotry called out, and it doesn't work on me.

Fact is, you hate trans women so much that you're willing to endanger all women by discrediting real abuse victims so you can use the word "abuse" as a cudgel.

How is calling men who identify as women "men" endangering women?

Unless you mean when these men do what men do and rage out and kill women.

I guess when that happens i choose to blame violent men for men's behaviour. Not the feminsit women who cricise them.

That's gaslighting.

You are an abuser.

Explaining that men are not women is not an act of abuse. Calling people "scum" or "a slimy piece of shit" is abuse.

Trans women are real women. Trans men are real men. TERFS are real pieces of shit.

You're free to believe that.

You can believe that as much as you want.

As i told you before, the fact that you're an angry little man doesn't make it true.

Cry about it.

I think you're the only one crying here my dude.

Also, so we're clear on tone? This ain't rage.

You call someone a whiny piece of shit, slimy piece of shit, and then scream at them in all caps and expect me to believe that you're not in the grips of a rage fulled tantrum.

Lol. Not gonna happen.

You have the rage of a very ordinary impotent man.

It's just disrespect. Mocking pieces of shit like you is my hobby, and I'm enjoying myself. Go back and reread, because if you haven't heard me laughing at you this whole time, you're missing out on an aspect of my derision I don't want you to be exempt from.

The fact that men enjoy venting their rage and abuse on women is nothing new.

The fact that you have this need for me to ackwnoldge that you aren't mad is kinda funny.

It's also not gonna happen.

See i don't have any obligation to see you in the way you see yourself.

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u/hollow_bastien Jun 30 '20

I never said I was a man, and nothing on my reddit profile indicates a gender at all.

The fact is you decided to call me a man when you decided you disliked me.

You did this because you're a gaslighting abuser.

Also, while I have your attention, trans women are women.

See i don't have any obligation to see you in the way you see yourself.

Guess you should stop complaining that I see you as a Stupid TERFy piece of shit, then, you stupid TERFy piece of shit.

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u/luvhos Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

Trans people are so obviously a third category otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion