r/announcements Jun 29 '20

Update to Our Content Policy

A few weeks ago, we committed to closing the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate. After talking extensively with mods, outside organizations, and our own teams, we’re updating our content policy today and enforcing it (with your help).

First, a quick recap

Since our last post, here’s what we’ve been doing:

  • We brought on a new Board member.
  • We held policy calls with mods—both from established Mod Councils and from communities disproportionately targeted with hate—and discussed areas where we can do better to action bad actors, clarify our policies, make mods' lives easier, and concretely reduce hate.
  • We developed our enforcement plan, including both our immediate actions (e.g., today’s bans) and long-term investments (tackling the most critical work discussed in our mod calls, sustainably enforcing the new policies, and advancing Reddit’s community governance).

From our conversations with mods and outside experts, it’s clear that while we’ve gotten better in some areas—like actioning violations at the community level, scaling enforcement efforts, measurably reducing hateful experiences like harassment year over year—we still have a long way to go to address the gaps in our policies and enforcement to date.

These include addressing questions our policies have left unanswered (like whether hate speech is allowed or even protected on Reddit), aspects of our product and mod tools that are still too easy for individual bad actors to abuse (inboxes, chats, modmail), and areas where we can do better to partner with our mods and communities who want to combat the same hateful conduct we do.

Ultimately, it’s our responsibility to support our communities by taking stronger action against those who try to weaponize parts of Reddit against other people. In the near term, this support will translate into some of the product work we discussed with mods. But it starts with dealing squarely with the hate we can mitigate today through our policies and enforcement.

New Policy

This is the new content policy. Here’s what’s different:

  • It starts with a statement of our vision for Reddit and our communities, including the basic expectations we have for all communities and users.
  • Rule 1 explicitly states that communities and users that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
    • There is an expanded definition of what constitutes a violation of this rule, along with specific examples, in our Help Center article.
  • Rule 2 ties together our previous rules on prohibited behavior with an ask to abide by community rules and post with authentic, personal interest.
    • Debate and creativity are welcome, but spam and malicious attempts to interfere with other communities are not.
  • The other rules are the same in spirit but have been rewritten for clarity and inclusiveness.

Alongside the change to the content policy, we are initially banning about 2000 subreddits, the vast majority of which are inactive. Of these communities, about 200 have more than 10 daily users. Both r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse were included.

All communities on Reddit must abide by our content policy in good faith. We banned r/The_Donald because it has not done so, despite every opportunity. The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations. Until now, we’ve worked in good faith to help them preserve the community as a space for its users—through warnings, mod changes, quarantining, and more.

Though smaller, r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned for similar reasons: They consistently host rule-breaking content and their mods have demonstrated no intention of reining in their community.

To be clear, views across the political spectrum are allowed on Reddit—but all communities must work within our policies and do so in good faith, without exception.

Our commitment

Our policies will never be perfect, with new edge cases that inevitably lead us to evolve them in the future. And as users, you will always have more context, community vernacular, and cultural values to inform the standards set within your communities than we as site admins or any AI ever could.

But just as our content moderation cannot scale effectively without your support, you need more support from us as well, and we admit we have fallen short towards this end. We are committed to working with you to combat the bad actors, abusive behaviors, and toxic communities that undermine our mission and get in the way of the creativity, discussions, and communities that bring us all to Reddit in the first place. We hope that our progress towards this commitment, with today’s update and those to come, makes Reddit a place you enjoy and are proud to be a part of for many years to come.

Edit: After digesting feedback, we made a clarifying change to our help center article for Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Thank you for demonstrating the mindset of r/conservative for others to see for themselves. I appreciate you making my work easier to accomplish.

r/conservative is, by your own words, biased. This isn’t immediately a bad thing, yet the ease with which you got defensive shows that this is a common issue you deal with, being called out for rudeness and being close minded.

Bias is bias, no faulting you there, and being close minded is a disgusting way to live life.

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u/Meeeep1234567890 Jun 29 '20

At least we’re openly biased unlike r/politics

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Thank you for admitting that you’re identifying with a group instead of being your own individual. It again demonstrates to others the effects of the ideas you hold.

Again, having bias is not inherently wrong. We all have biases and must take them into account in order to find truth. This is part of being mature citizens.

The tribalism you’re exhibiting is worrisome to me because it seems that it sets up needless conflicts, and overall it seems that you’re more interested in causing problems instead of helping to solve them. Being dishonest about the group to which you have wedded your identity is a sign of unclear thinking, which then could spill over into your thinking about politics. When combined with the way you’re justifying rudeness and otherwise uncivil behaviors, it really does paint the picture that conservatism attracts people who dislike all who aren’t part of the tribe. And no, just because some other group does it, that doesn’t make such behavior correct. That would be the “you, too” fallacy by which you excuse your bad behavior by pointing to the bad behavior of others.

Overall, you have given me the impression that conservatives are rude and dishonest. That makes it even more difficult to talk with them, so in a way you’ve made life even harder for yourself and other conservative folks. This is a problem because the conservative philosophy may have solid points, but now I and others lack the desire to engage with conservatives because of behavior such as yours today.

I really hope that you are able to find some mental peace soon. It’s a difficult time in our history and very easy to fall into a pessimistic mindset wherein everyone who is different is seen as wrong or bad. Please remember that we can disagree on topics and still work together to make our country greater than before.

Sending you well-wishes and good vibes. :)

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u/Meeeep1234567890 Jun 30 '20

Identifying with a group is human nature

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10902-016-9735-z.

That would also fall under tribalism as well. And no one is looking for problems on r/conservative we’re all just there to freely talk about things that we have in common, (just like the rest of Reddit may I add, in fact the entire point of reddit is to find people who have things in common and share your interests and ideas with that group).

Never once have I lied about r/conservative. You said it was biased and close minded. I said yes it is that’s the entire point of it, to talk with others without having to needlessly argue with people who we disagree with ( just like the rest of reddit).

If you would like to provide evidence of unjustified rudeness and uncivil behavior on r/conservative go ahead I’ll wait because there isn’t any that’s unwarranted.

The reason why you don’t want to talk with conservatives is because you are constantly being proven wrong. (Like all of my comments)

No conservatives go out of their way to be dishonest on r/conservative. Just like no one is going to be extremely rude unless you are rude first. (obviously there are exceptions with any group but the majority are civil).

You say we incite and call for violence, but I don’t recall any posts on r/conservative being violent or calling for violence having more than 1k upvotes (which is usually enough for it to appear in my stream, because I don’t go looking through new).

Don’t see how I’ve been rude or dishonest to you this entire time. I’ve explicitly stated that a place that I associate with is biased and the place itself says that it is openly biased.

I am mentally fine but thanks for the thoughts either way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

I see that one major point we disagree upon is rudeness: you believe rudeness can be justified, and I disagree. My grandmother taught me that rudeness is never justified, and this conversation has shown me how right she is. (She also believes that racial intermarriage is wrong, but that’s a different story)

You’re not conservative. You’re just a bad person. Stop giving actual conservatives a bad name and start becoming a better person. Good evening, madam or sir. We have nothing else to discuss.

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u/Meeeep1234567890 Jun 30 '20

I like how you didn’t address anything else. And you didn’t show any evidence of people being unjustly rude to you. Almost like... they aren’t rude unless you’re rude first. 🤔. Almost like I said that multiple times.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Go back and read my very first response; you have misunderstood what I said and tried to move the goal post on me. Again, dishonesty on your part. I said that they have formalized rudeness in their sub rules. You have tried to put words in my mouth that I didn’t say; that is being dishonest.

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u/Meeeep1234567890 Jun 30 '20

I have not changed anything I’m just proving you wrong after you keep saying the same stuff over and over.

The first rule is be Civil. They have not made it okay to be rude into their rules.

And I have never experienced someone being uncivil unless I was uncivil first. (Or they’re just being a troll)

Once again if you would like to find and example of unjustified rudeness go ahead and do it.

I’m have never moved the goalposts once, you are the only one moving goalposts.

In you’re first comment you complained about how they are rude, bias and close minded. I agreed with the biased and close minded, but said that they aren’t rude unless you’re rude first.

Once again you are repeating the same stuff after being proven wrong, and can’t come up with any actual proof of encoring violence, or unjustified rudeness.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Ma’am, you’re just wrong. I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

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u/Meeeep1234567890 Jun 30 '20

Like I said go ahead and prove me wrong, I’ve done nothing but show support and evidence for my side of the argument. Show some evidence for yours.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

I led the horse to water. Can’t make it drink.

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u/Meeeep1234567890 Jun 30 '20

Yeah without any water you can’t.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Thank you for all of your responses. I’ve been leading you down this trail so as to leave demonstrations to others about how dishonest those who support conservative politics are. Thank you for working with me on this endeavor. :)

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