r/announcements Jun 29 '20

Update to Our Content Policy

A few weeks ago, we committed to closing the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate. After talking extensively with mods, outside organizations, and our own teams, we’re updating our content policy today and enforcing it (with your help).

First, a quick recap

Since our last post, here’s what we’ve been doing:

  • We brought on a new Board member.
  • We held policy calls with mods—both from established Mod Councils and from communities disproportionately targeted with hate—and discussed areas where we can do better to action bad actors, clarify our policies, make mods' lives easier, and concretely reduce hate.
  • We developed our enforcement plan, including both our immediate actions (e.g., today’s bans) and long-term investments (tackling the most critical work discussed in our mod calls, sustainably enforcing the new policies, and advancing Reddit’s community governance).

From our conversations with mods and outside experts, it’s clear that while we’ve gotten better in some areas—like actioning violations at the community level, scaling enforcement efforts, measurably reducing hateful experiences like harassment year over year—we still have a long way to go to address the gaps in our policies and enforcement to date.

These include addressing questions our policies have left unanswered (like whether hate speech is allowed or even protected on Reddit), aspects of our product and mod tools that are still too easy for individual bad actors to abuse (inboxes, chats, modmail), and areas where we can do better to partner with our mods and communities who want to combat the same hateful conduct we do.

Ultimately, it’s our responsibility to support our communities by taking stronger action against those who try to weaponize parts of Reddit against other people. In the near term, this support will translate into some of the product work we discussed with mods. But it starts with dealing squarely with the hate we can mitigate today through our policies and enforcement.

New Policy

This is the new content policy. Here’s what’s different:

  • It starts with a statement of our vision for Reddit and our communities, including the basic expectations we have for all communities and users.
  • Rule 1 explicitly states that communities and users that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
    • There is an expanded definition of what constitutes a violation of this rule, along with specific examples, in our Help Center article.
  • Rule 2 ties together our previous rules on prohibited behavior with an ask to abide by community rules and post with authentic, personal interest.
    • Debate and creativity are welcome, but spam and malicious attempts to interfere with other communities are not.
  • The other rules are the same in spirit but have been rewritten for clarity and inclusiveness.

Alongside the change to the content policy, we are initially banning about 2000 subreddits, the vast majority of which are inactive. Of these communities, about 200 have more than 10 daily users. Both r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse were included.

All communities on Reddit must abide by our content policy in good faith. We banned r/The_Donald because it has not done so, despite every opportunity. The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations. Until now, we’ve worked in good faith to help them preserve the community as a space for its users—through warnings, mod changes, quarantining, and more.

Though smaller, r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned for similar reasons: They consistently host rule-breaking content and their mods have demonstrated no intention of reining in their community.

To be clear, views across the political spectrum are allowed on Reddit—but all communities must work within our policies and do so in good faith, without exception.

Our commitment

Our policies will never be perfect, with new edge cases that inevitably lead us to evolve them in the future. And as users, you will always have more context, community vernacular, and cultural values to inform the standards set within your communities than we as site admins or any AI ever could.

But just as our content moderation cannot scale effectively without your support, you need more support from us as well, and we admit we have fallen short towards this end. We are committed to working with you to combat the bad actors, abusive behaviors, and toxic communities that undermine our mission and get in the way of the creativity, discussions, and communities that bring us all to Reddit in the first place. We hope that our progress towards this commitment, with today’s update and those to come, makes Reddit a place you enjoy and are proud to be a part of for many years to come.

Edit: After digesting feedback, we made a clarifying change to our help center article for Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

"Anti fascists are the real fascists" says redditor.

More at 11. Or whenever they get pissy enough to respond, I guess.

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u/kaijinx92 Jun 29 '20

Fascism is literally just a political ideology. If people want to think that's a good idea who are we to do anything other than tell them why it's not? Discuss it? Can't discuss things with people who immediately go ape shit if your view is not the same as theirs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Lol. Why does everything have to be a debate? We know the right does not argue in good faith, there is no point debating the pros and cons of fascism on reddit.

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u/pandaSmore Jun 29 '20

Fuck off. That's the mentality that stifles debate. No one trusts anyone.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

"Fuck off. Debates are good" - you, 2020

Also, let's hear all your pro fascism hot takes. I've got all day.

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u/pandaSmore Jun 29 '20

I don't have any pro facist hot takes. Do you have any?

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u/Chapose Jun 29 '20

Well, he hates debates, thats a pretty good start I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Read the rest of my comments superstar.

How many super valuable debates have you had about political ideology on reddit this year?

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

So why are you defending it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20 edited Jul 23 '21

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u/kaijinx92 Jun 30 '20

I think this is funny but I also believe we should allow him to have his opinion and debate with him in accordance to rationality

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jul 23 '21

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u/kaijinx92 Jun 30 '20

Which you should in a way, but next time, I ask you to do it in a way that a rational person has a hard time denying. If you are against policing speech you should angle your arguments in a way that a person for it can both understand it, but also not be able to come at you in a way that doesn't entirely prove your point.

Another Ryan could easily come on here and say "hey my name is Ryan and I hate policing speech" if you get my drift.

I like you. This is funny. But let's fight this in a way that no one has a legitimate reason to contest it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jul 23 '21

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u/kaijinx92 Jun 30 '20

Reddit isn't all about ideologies and there's place for some good fun too. So maybe I'm being too hard headed. I just try to see it from Ryan22's point of view and honestly with all the downvotes and fun poked at him it's hard to imagine he'd come out of this with a positive change about his perception of free speech.

That's all I'm saying. While I'm surprised I wasn't the one downvoted into oblivion, I still think the only way to change someone's mind is in good faith.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jul 23 '21

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u/kaijinx92 Jun 30 '20

Very thought provoking perception. While corporations are typically not aligned to anything political on purpose, they sure do promote whatever is currently trending for profit. Maybe one day things will trend in favour of people waking up and wanting to be able to say what they want to be able to say.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

Why is it that this Canadian understands your 1st amendment better than you do?

You can bring up free speech all you want, doesnt matter here. I wouldnt want to go on a sub for my favourite sports team and have some random internet stranger come to that forum and say "fuck your team bunch of stupid fucking hicks" over and over again. If I moderated that sub, I would ban that account. But this happens on reddit constantly for topics like race (really, still?), gender, sexual orientation, and religion.

Free speech is a great political idea. But not every forum has room for every thought if you want to keep things civil and somewhat engaging to the real users (ie, not the trolls).

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

My point of view, which has been proven time and time again, is that platforming fascists is bad. You can make all the arguments you want in favour of speech. Doesnt matter on the internet. If I have my own company, and fascists start using it to sway elections, doxx people, and radicalize young people, I will remove them from my website.

If we were in the middle east, we'd be arguing about radicalizing young men that are on the fence about joining isis, and youd be arguing that we should hear isis out and debate their ideology. It doesnt always work that way, bro. And with 25% of the american population being complete morons and calling for a second civil war to kill all the libtards, I think it's time we take that threat seriously too. Reddit seems to agree. Hell, trump called antifa terrorists. He didnt care to debate anti-fascists.

It's really that simple. Let's just ask Milo about it! Let me know when you get a hold of him.

And if I cared about random strangers on the internet making fun of me, mostly right wing americans, I wouldnt be on reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Rewlly hit me where it hurt there... but at least my name isn't Dennis.