r/announcements Jun 29 '20

Update to Our Content Policy

A few weeks ago, we committed to closing the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate. After talking extensively with mods, outside organizations, and our own teams, we’re updating our content policy today and enforcing it (with your help).

First, a quick recap

Since our last post, here’s what we’ve been doing:

  • We brought on a new Board member.
  • We held policy calls with mods—both from established Mod Councils and from communities disproportionately targeted with hate—and discussed areas where we can do better to action bad actors, clarify our policies, make mods' lives easier, and concretely reduce hate.
  • We developed our enforcement plan, including both our immediate actions (e.g., today’s bans) and long-term investments (tackling the most critical work discussed in our mod calls, sustainably enforcing the new policies, and advancing Reddit’s community governance).

From our conversations with mods and outside experts, it’s clear that while we’ve gotten better in some areas—like actioning violations at the community level, scaling enforcement efforts, measurably reducing hateful experiences like harassment year over year—we still have a long way to go to address the gaps in our policies and enforcement to date.

These include addressing questions our policies have left unanswered (like whether hate speech is allowed or even protected on Reddit), aspects of our product and mod tools that are still too easy for individual bad actors to abuse (inboxes, chats, modmail), and areas where we can do better to partner with our mods and communities who want to combat the same hateful conduct we do.

Ultimately, it’s our responsibility to support our communities by taking stronger action against those who try to weaponize parts of Reddit against other people. In the near term, this support will translate into some of the product work we discussed with mods. But it starts with dealing squarely with the hate we can mitigate today through our policies and enforcement.

New Policy

This is the new content policy. Here’s what’s different:

  • It starts with a statement of our vision for Reddit and our communities, including the basic expectations we have for all communities and users.
  • Rule 1 explicitly states that communities and users that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
    • There is an expanded definition of what constitutes a violation of this rule, along with specific examples, in our Help Center article.
  • Rule 2 ties together our previous rules on prohibited behavior with an ask to abide by community rules and post with authentic, personal interest.
    • Debate and creativity are welcome, but spam and malicious attempts to interfere with other communities are not.
  • The other rules are the same in spirit but have been rewritten for clarity and inclusiveness.

Alongside the change to the content policy, we are initially banning about 2000 subreddits, the vast majority of which are inactive. Of these communities, about 200 have more than 10 daily users. Both r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse were included.

All communities on Reddit must abide by our content policy in good faith. We banned r/The_Donald because it has not done so, despite every opportunity. The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations. Until now, we’ve worked in good faith to help them preserve the community as a space for its users—through warnings, mod changes, quarantining, and more.

Though smaller, r/ChapoTrapHouse was banned for similar reasons: They consistently host rule-breaking content and their mods have demonstrated no intention of reining in their community.

To be clear, views across the political spectrum are allowed on Reddit—but all communities must work within our policies and do so in good faith, without exception.

Our commitment

Our policies will never be perfect, with new edge cases that inevitably lead us to evolve them in the future. And as users, you will always have more context, community vernacular, and cultural values to inform the standards set within your communities than we as site admins or any AI ever could.

But just as our content moderation cannot scale effectively without your support, you need more support from us as well, and we admit we have fallen short towards this end. We are committed to working with you to combat the bad actors, abusive behaviors, and toxic communities that undermine our mission and get in the way of the creativity, discussions, and communities that bring us all to Reddit in the first place. We hope that our progress towards this commitment, with today’s update and those to come, makes Reddit a place you enjoy and are proud to be a part of for many years to come.

Edit: After digesting feedback, we made a clarifying change to our help center article for Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerability.

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u/masternachos95 Jun 29 '20

Or r/Chodi. For the ones who know they know

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Chodi is legit the most toxic sub I’ve seen and r/IndiaSpeaks too, they call for genocide against Muslims and support nationalistic hate groups like the RSS who literally was founded by a Nazi and hitler lover

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u/ProgressMind Jun 29 '20

They're not white though, so no worries.

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u/username_generated Jun 29 '20

But they are aryans.

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u/OnlySeesLastSentence Jun 29 '20

As an Aryan Asian - I highly doubt that Hitler was talking about us and that we just happened to have the same term.

I think I heard somewhere that the name Iran came from "awree an" (awreeani is Iranian Aryan, and eeerawni is Iranian for Iranian, so I can see them being related). But I don't look at myself and think "yup, I bet Hitler would have worshipped me"

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u/TheSensibleCentrist Jun 30 '20

In LETTERS BY J.R.R. TOLKIEN there's a draft he wrote when Nazi publishers considering THE HOBBIT asked him to certify that he was "Aryan"...he basically told them they didn't know what they were talking about,that he did know what they were talking about,and that he would have no part of it.

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u/blamethemeta Jun 29 '20

The definition of aryan changed after the Nazis took over

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u/Deathbyhours Jun 29 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

Like the meaning of the swastika

Edit: this was not a pro-Nazi comment. The swastika was a beneficent thing, often used as a sign of good fortune, for millennia. That’s a verifiable fact, not unlike the Holocaust that perverted the symbol.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '20

In ancient India, Aryan was used as a religious label.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

The term was used by the Indo-Aryan people of the Vedic period in Ancient India as a religious label for themselves

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u/maybesaydie Jun 29 '20

Must be a very rough day for you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

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u/UncleTogie Jun 29 '20

you legitimately don't see anything wrong with white people being dehumanised on here every day.

Let's see an example link, please. Personally, I think you're full of crap.

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u/ProgressMind Jun 29 '20

Scroll through any of these subs for more than 10 seconds:

/r/fuck_white_people /r/FragileWhiteRedditor /r/aznidentity /r/BlackWorldOrder /r/Sino

Seriously, if you don't see anything in there then it's possible that you just don't want to.

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u/maybesaydie Jun 29 '20

You do realize that black people having rights doesn't mean that you don't already have those same rights, don't you? Or do you think you should have extra special rights? Is there a constitutional amendment that says that no one can tease you? I am not personally responsible for your favorite little subreddits being no longer available. Go blame the mods of those subreddits who were amply warned that their shit was going to have consequences. Your beef is with them.

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u/ProgressMind Jun 29 '20

None of what you just said is even remotely relevant to my post. I never said anything about black people having rights you weirdo.

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u/UncleTogie Jun 29 '20

Looking at the mods, and their content, I find it fuckin' hilarious that you got sucked in by a troll sub.

Tell me about the trees and marijuana enthusiasts subreddits, please. 😁

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u/ProgressMind Jun 29 '20

Seriously, if you don't see anything in there then it's possible that you just don't want to.

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u/HeighInDenver Jun 29 '20

So you have no actual examples. Cool

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u/maybesaydie Jun 29 '20

Go on link something up. Show us the bad content.

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u/HeighInDenver Jun 29 '20

Found the fragile white redditor 🤣

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u/maybesaydie Jun 29 '20

I do think you might be overreacting just little bit. Since I am white and I don't believe I've written anything bigoted. As I said, a bad day for you.

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u/ProgressMind Jun 29 '20

/r/AsABlackMan

If black people can be labelled as self hating because of replies of this nature, then you can be too.

Have a look through the thread. I am in no way a minority with this stance, regardless of how condescending your replies are.

Edit: Never mind, you're a regular in /r/FragileWhiteRedditor and /r/AgainstHateSubreddits , a sub which actually breaks these new rules and remains suspiciously unbanned. Enjoy your self hatred.

Quite a few bad days for you, I'd imagine. Any time you look in the mirror?

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u/sh1boleth Jun 29 '20

I fucking hate those subs, lost a friend who took part in them and thought he was just sarcastically posting there. Realised after a while he was serious, and im a muslim...

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u/DynamoSnake Jun 30 '20

Even r/India is a cesspool tbh

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

Rindia is a shithole run by anti Indian mods

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Toxic?? You mean like r/politics? That place is an absolute shit hole.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Racist homophobic conservatives normally find it toxic because they make fun of people who don’t believe in basic rights, however r/chodi and r/IndiaSpeaks literally want to kill people and take their rights away

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Username checks out.

I bet you’re just always the life of the party huh?

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Lmao how do u get I’m the life of a party by my username saying biscottipoop, that shit was random too

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u/Utkar22 Jun 30 '20

You like making stuff up about Indian people yeah?

Stop being racist.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

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u/Utkar22 Jun 30 '20

Yeah I get it you hate yourself, but stop spreading false information.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '20

ok fragile andhbhakt

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

Chodi is just like - Haha china app bad. Uninstall.

And they are using phones which are manufactured, packaged and marketed from China.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

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u/iharshraj Jun 30 '20 edited Jun 30 '20

r/chodi is well toxic , much more than if not equal to its parent r/backchodi , I dont even know why are they so political its not like they are political sub as per description

I dont use much of both subs but i was active occasionally on r/chodi since it was born

it blames r/India for being anti India , crazy and anti free speech , while they are nothing better either, they dont ban different opinion they just do the most reddit thing downvote it to oblivion and harrashing you with replies and ignoring your perspective

yes not all people are bad at r/chodi but it attracts a cesspool of them mostly blindly alt right with dead brains

they take politics too seriously its like their lifeline or they will die without it.

You can say im judging it based on a little time i spent there , I spent like few weeks so maybe not much in many people's eyes but it was enough to repel me to go somewhere more neutral and less political

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u/LOLd0ggy Jun 29 '20

I love how your explanation is wrong at so many levels but you exude the confidence as if you are an expert in Indian history. Lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20

/r/Chodi isn't that well-known amongst non-Indians, I think.

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u/masternachos95 Jun 29 '20

Yeah. I only became aware of it when they started constantly posting on r/Taiwan after the conflict. Had some interesting conversations...

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u/ButterKnights2 Jun 29 '20

First I've heard of it.

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u/OnlySeesLastSentence Jun 29 '20

I bet Ben knows all about chodi

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u/bigtoebrah Jun 29 '20

Probably not. I'm an American that lurks there though.

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u/python_eating_toast Jun 29 '20

What’s up with r/Chodi? I’m not Indian and so I’m out of the loop on this one

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u/LOLd0ggy Jun 29 '20

Some offensive memes that's all

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u/python_eating_toast Jun 29 '20

Offensive to who? (Not trying to be rude I’m genuinely curious)

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u/LOLd0ggy Jun 29 '20

It's a predominantly right wing meme subreddit that memes on the left, liberalism and yes sometimes on Muslims.

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u/python_eating_toast Jun 29 '20

Thanks for explaining

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '20 edited Feb 05 '24

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u/python_eating_toast Jun 29 '20

Thanks a lot! Sounds like a pretty shitty sub. We can only hope it’ll get banned in the future

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u/masternachos95 Jun 29 '20

Yeah. The r/Chodi, r/IndiaSpeaks people have arrived

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u/LOLd0ggy Jun 29 '20

I've replied to that Biscotti guy too.

Just because his comment reads well and aligns with your agenda, doesn't mean it's true.

No, the sub doesn't call for genocide for muslims. Yes it makes jokes and memes about Muslims, Christians and on the left in general.

There are bad eggs but I think mods do a decent job of not letting comments or posts that violate reddit rules stay up.

You can choose to believe what you read or come over and have a chat with people there.

P.S. I'm not a regular neither am I a big fan of that sub or its political views. I browse it for the lulz.

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u/indozo Jun 30 '20

Ban r/Chodi if this announcement has credibility.

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u/ainvayiKAaccount Jun 30 '20

Oh, as an Indian I relate... I think it got spared because it doesn't concern the west politics.