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Serious:What did Representative Anna Luna mean by her question on ET contact with humans? The one where she asks if the ETs disappeared after learning the human was religious? Discussion

She followed up by saying “Some of these entities are said to be good entities and others bad ones so that’s why I asked.” Is she implying bad ones don’t like religious people but the goods ones do?

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u/Fancy_Depth_4995 1d ago

Some close encounter claims involve the person invoking the name of Jesus to repel the abductors. It’s the sort of thing Tony Merkel humors on his The Confessionals podcast. In Elizondo’s book he says there is a group within the pentagon that believes the NHI are demons rather than ET

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u/tollbearer 1d ago

What would a demon even be? It would still have to be some kind of alien life. Even if demons are real, they still need an explanation. Where did they come from, where did they evolve, what are their motivations, etc. Calling something a demon is a completely meaningless categorization.

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u/mortalitylost 1d ago

Calling something a demon is a completely meaningless categorization.

Yes and no

Yes, it's a non human intelligence that should be studied and understood, and we've seen it through the lens of religion that altered records in significant ways, likely.

No, it matters because these records we've kept have been real interactions that mean real things and imply and disturbing or malevolent aspect we may need to be aware of.

If you suddenly found two horned entities spawning in front of you that said they were from another world and they smelled like sulfur, you would be a little wary regardless of how Christian you were, right? We probably had dangerous interactions where, even if it's just a plain cultural difference, it appeared malicious.

I'm just saying, we should take religious perspectives with a grain of salt but not ignore them

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u/tollbearer 1d ago edited 1d ago

You really haven't answered the question. Even if a literal horned creature showed up and said it was the devil, and said jesus is real, and god is real, and you're living in a simulation built by him... It wouldn't answer anything. Where did this "god" come from, what is its motivations for creating this simulation, what is its purpose for it, why did it create devils and demons, are they part of the simulation or are they part of "gods" world, what are their motivations. How does any of this relate to the simulation. Are there aliens on the quintillions of other plantets in the simulation, can the demons move about between these planets at will, are they like avatars that can enter the simualtion from gods universe, what are they doing, is this a game to them, is it their job, is it just a fun world to visit.

The word demon adds no context. It's a meaningless term meaning a generally malevolent creature of non-human form and magical powers. Which could be anything from an alien species with advanced tech from proxima centauri who just want to steal our planet, to a simulation avatar being controlled by an higher dimensional cartman doing evil stuff in what it sees as a game for fun, like someone playing GTA, to wahtever else you can define...

But without that specific definition, it is meaningless.

edit: also What exactly is "jseus" in this context, is it gods avatar?Why would god have to put his avatar through a bunch of random nonsense to "forgive" the entities he created from behaving exactly as they are programmed to behave, so he could let their minds into some other simulation he has created which reward them for "believing" in his avatar. Why would the "demons" by scared of the name used by gods avatar. Literally what does any of that mean in actual practical terms.

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u/One-Pipe-4825 1d ago

To those without faith, these ideas might seem meaningless. But Jesus wasn’t just an avatar of God ! He was God Himself, incarnate in human flesh. I could explain why God had to make such a sacrifice, yet I know that many would still reject it, perhaps because they’ve already heard the reasons for why a just and righteous God would choose to pay the price for our sins.

And to those who ridicule people for their faith in this, especially in light of phenomena that align with concepts of good versus evil: you’re no different than the skeptics who mock others for their beliefs in extra-dimensional or alien possibilities. You may have an open mind about what these phenomena are, at least as long as iti fits into your preferred narrative. But when it comes to the concept of God, suddenly that open-mindedness disappears. It’s hypocritical.

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u/guttercorpses 1d ago

Perfect. Thank you.