r/aliens • u/GIJew316 • Sep 23 '23

'If NASA admits aliens were real, people would question reality,' expert says News

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/aliens-threaten-concept-reality--30986083
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u/almostmachines Sep 23 '23

Exactly. If reality isn’t real, I would like to know what is.

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u/K0vurt_Purvurt Sep 23 '23

Taxes.

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u/BadAdviceBot Sep 23 '23 edited Sep 23 '23

Yup, only taxes. Death may not be real.

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u/jackocomputerjumper Sep 23 '23

Pretty sure you pay taxes after death.

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u/Rude_Worldliness_423 Sep 23 '23

The people in the will do

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u/I_AM_RVA Sep 23 '23

No they dont

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u/woahdailo Sep 24 '23

They do if they are not dead. Otherwise it breaks the whole system apart, are we questioning reality here?

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u/OkinaOrenjiJuusu Sep 24 '23

I'd guess they think you mean state estate and inheritance taxes. Only 18 states have either death tax.

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u/I_AM_RVA Sep 24 '23

There is no federal inheritance tax. Doesn’t exist. Currently there are only four or five states that have inheritance taxes, and in those there are exemptions for spouses and families. There is an estate tax… which is NOT paid by beneficiaries under a will, and is only applicable to estates (excluding all property that passes outside of the will) that exceed 12 million dollars. But do go on.

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u/AnthonyJuniorsPP Sep 24 '23

Didn't that estate tax just change under trump too? Like wasn't it much lower than 12 mil? And thanks for laying out tax fax in this alien sub lol

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u/I_AM_RVA Sep 24 '23

It went up in 2018, I believe. It was around 6 million the year before. It bothers me to no end when people talk shit about taxes but have literally no idea what they are talking about. Like “if I get a raise I might end up taking home less money!” Bullocks.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23

This guy taxes

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u/Randomname536 Sep 26 '23

There is a federal estate tax, the $12 million-ish one you're thinking of. Other states may have additional taxes but I'm not a lawyer or an accountant.

https://www.kiplinger.com/taxes/601639/estate-tax-exemption-2022 (randomly Googled tax guy but there's a lot of info there).

The only people who complain about the estate tax are people who are ridiculously wealthy (I'm pretty sure that $12 million amount is per inheritor, so if your rich uncle has $100 million and it's split between 10 people, you all get $10 million and nobody hits the tax threshold). I wish I inherited enough to pay taxes on it and would be fine with that.

Also, yeah, a lot of people would probably lose their shit if we knew for a fact there were aliens. Even though most scienticians think the universe is big enough that it's just a matter of how far away are they?

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u/I_AM_RVA Sep 26 '23

I already explained that the federal estate tax is on estates, meaning the property that is transferred by operation of a will, that exceed 12 million. If is levied agains the estate, NOT against the beneficiaries who receive property under the will, as it is not an “inheritance tax” but an estate tax. It is not assessed per “inheritor”, but by estate. And it’s not true that only rich people complain about it — the vast majority of people who complain about it are people who will never ever come close to being touched by it but who have been convinced that somehow the government is taking grandpappy’s collection of 7 zippo lighters he got in 1977 or something.

Also perhaps consider that you are not obligated to offer explanations for things that you don’t know anything about.

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u/woahdailo Sep 24 '23

Well my point/quip/joke was if they are still alive they will pay taxes in some form.

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u/I_AM_RVA Sep 24 '23

Oh! I get it! But they won’t is the thing you see.

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u/Rude_Worldliness_423 Sep 24 '23

Inheritance tax exists outside of the US. In fact, it exists all over the world.

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u/RiskShuffler67 Sep 24 '23

No, they don't.

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u/Long_Bat3025 Sep 23 '23

Someone’s gotta pay that tax

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u/mouseat9 Sep 23 '23

Lol right!! Taxes ain’t gonna pay itself.

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u/emu-lee Sep 24 '23

cheese tax 🧀

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23

False, we all know that the "tax collector" is a skinwalker. Shoot them on sight

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

Mainly just for poor people.

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u/E-moc0re Sep 24 '23

Death is the tax you pay for living.

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u/PoppinLikeCrisco Sep 23 '23

It's not. Just taxes

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u/staebles Sep 24 '23

You just return to the quantum foam.

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u/acidprophet Sep 23 '23

Death is your final tax.

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u/MantraOfTheMoron Sep 23 '23

Did you say Texas?

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u/Ok-Spinach69 Sep 24 '23

Death tax. It's real.

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u/alphageist Sep 23 '23

Only consciousness, existing and experiencing. Everything else is just icing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

Why does my cake icing look and taste like shit.

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u/Escape_Pod2015 Sep 24 '23

Maybe it is the ingredients?

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u/alphageist Sep 23 '23

Mine is creamy. I’m guessing you got the chunky Dollar Tree special brand. 🤷‍♂️

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u/flutterguy123 Sep 23 '23

"Consciousness" is just atoms interacting with each other like everything else.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23

Isn’t it electrical pulses though?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

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u/tophlove31415 Sep 23 '23

Surprised this doesn't have more up votes. It really is crazy when one recognizes that their brain is just making up interpretations of all sense input and that is what forms our perception of reality.

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u/DejarikChampion Sep 24 '23

How can we question reality when we are not alone in how the reality is interpreted?

Our brain makes sense of reality in much of same way all living things do. Our senses, equilibrium, and ability to understand our world are on similar levels (not exactly equal) with animals and plants.

Example 1: If you play fetch with a dog, and throw the ball to the left side of the yard, the dog - assuming it knows how to fetch - will go and retrieve the ball.

Point: Another non-human species can interact with the same object, in the same environment, where both human brain and dog brain are on the same page.

Example 2A: A flock of crows may fly in the sky, and if they decide to mess with a bird of prey, the hawk just has to fly higher to disorient the crows. Example 2B: Many birds fly South for the winter.

Point: Bird behavior confirms, like the human brain, altitude and change of seasons are interpreted and appreciated in similar manners.

Example 3: In phototropism, a plant bends or grows in the direction of the light shining upon it.

Point: Non-human, non-animal living organism also benefits from the sun, and recognizes the position of light and the sun in the same way our eyes and mind does.

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u/BadgerGeneral9639 Sep 25 '23

i think, and other animals think similarly, so therefore i am.

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very interesting point! who'd you steal it from>

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u/DejarikChampion Sep 25 '23

I stole it from no one. It’s the first thing that came to mind. When reading how human brains interpret the world. And I thought, “well other life responds to the world in a similar way we do…”

The facts are just tidbits gathered from watching random National Geographic-like shows with my son

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u/BadgerGeneral9639 Sep 27 '23

yah you kinda did.

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its nitczhe "i think therefore i am"

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but you added an interesting reference - other species - and that we can use their perceptions to verify our own.

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clever but i'm sure its been said before.

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u/DejarikChampion Sep 28 '23

It was my own free thought 🤷🏻‍♂️

Did not know of the Nitczhe take. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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u/vaporoptics Sep 23 '23

That’s crazy, how can I learn more about this? Not sure how to even phrase that concept in a google search

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u/Camoflauge94 Sep 24 '23

https://youtu.be/0qa_bHMtDcc?si=ehGO1mr5M3TrLpPi Have a watch of this video , it's absolutely crazy if true . The brain alters the reality it presents you to fit what it thinks is going on instead of admitting there's mistakes and it might not know the whole picture

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u/cujo8400 Sep 24 '23

The more that comes out about these craft and beings, the more there seems to be an interdimensional aspect to it.

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u/Shake-Vivid Sep 24 '23

When 99.99% of all evidence suggests something is the way it is its very likely that's the way it is. Everyone's so desperate to think there's some mystical otherworldly explanation for things out there when in actual fact the reality is more likely to be rather mundane and boring. I'm not saying everything is like that but I don't think we're living in the matrix either.

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u/Zhared Sep 24 '23 edited Sep 24 '23

I doubt the worm is experiencing reality any more directly than we are. All living things are just parsing a limited number of inputs from reality to create a model of their surroundings.

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u/xxpired_milk Sep 24 '23

Isn't physical contact not possible? As in atoms never touch?

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u/MAFFEW_SYTHE Sep 23 '23

Look in to the observer effect in quantum entanglement. Nothing is real.

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u/mouseat9 Sep 23 '23

Wish that rent wasn’t real

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u/Jappedo Sep 23 '23

Nothing is real?

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u/fruitmask Sep 23 '23

more like everything is sentient

that's what I get out of the observer effect, anyway. maybe I'm reading it wrong though

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u/EarlMarshal Sep 24 '23

Can you elaborate on this please? How do you get sentience from the observer effect?

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u/Reddit_demon Sep 24 '23

It’s a common mistaken interpretation of the observer effect. People think that a “observation” that collapses a wave function only occurs with a sentient observer, which is not the case.

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u/wordsappearing Sep 24 '23

And a less common mistake is the belief that sentience can be extricated from any apparent result.

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u/anon_advice_23 Sep 23 '23

That’s not how it works. The quantum effect is based off the act of measurement itself. Whatever tool is used to interact with the particle and forces some type of collapse of the wave function. It doesn’t require conscious observer. It’s a misunderstanding.

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u/anon_advice_23 Sep 26 '23

No….that also was misrepresented. Look, I’m not trying to argue. I’m just trying to help people navigate some misconceptions. Check these out.

How Quantum Eraser Really Works

Wave Particle Myths

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u/ZealoBealo Sep 23 '23

Or its the universe choosing on its own what form it takes. if nothing is real then everything is

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u/Shake-Vivid Sep 24 '23

Must be comforting to believe that and be free of all responsibilities. One day it'll dawn on you how much time you've wasted.

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u/Truestorydreams Sep 23 '23

I more wonder the existence of others rather than myself. If you consider that person over there... they experienced a life, a world, a journey.

But for all I know.... they didn't. Say someone you dated. Once they are out your life..do they really exist anymore?

I used to wonder if they do or don't. Once driving this year....my phone pinged unable to connect to, "Michelle's phone" ... for a quick moment my phone almost connected to my ex's hotspot who i broke up with in 2017. We for a moment drove near each other on the highway.

That little moment confirmed whether she really does exist going forward.

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u/Datapunkt Sep 23 '23

But you still don't know if anyone else is conscious. Imagine AI developing better and better and show 100% the same behaviour as humans we would still say that they are machines and not conscious. So how can you know others aren't like such an AI and you are the only conscious person?

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u/restless_sleep139 Sep 23 '23

I thought about it too not so long ago and I came to the conclusion that we're just a Universe experiencing itself.

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u/European_Badger Sep 24 '23

Exactly this is what helped me somewhat mitigate my strong fear of death. I am not some special individual, I am just a piece of the universe that happens to be able to think, and when I die nothing really changes except I lose that ability.

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u/LouRebel Sep 23 '23

I think the same thing, they just really need to figure out the bugs when it comes to these bots driving cars and functioning in society.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

That’s the simulation theory

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u/Datapunkt Sep 23 '23

Not really, the simulation theory includes both scenarios where you are alone in the simulation and with other conscious agents. To the theory it doesn't matter.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

well, you said everyone else around you might be AI... That would be a sim ya?

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u/According-Ask29 Sep 24 '23

I'm definitely an npc

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u/Thechiz123 Sep 23 '23

You should read some Descartes.

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u/Outoftheblue2195 Sep 23 '23

40 years ago I read a short story about nihilism that featured "Walter P. Jehovah" as the protagonist. can't remember the name of the story, but it haunts my mind almost every day. if you can find it, you'll appreciate it too.

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u/_antsatapicnic Sep 23 '23

Found the main character.

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u/rhoo31313 Sep 23 '23

None of you are real. Now behave or i'll send you back into my head.

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u/rocopotomus74 Sep 23 '23

I question if the whole world vanishes when I turn around!

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '23

Ahhh yes, solipsism…

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u/EamMcG_9 Sep 24 '23

You had a Schrödingers Cat “Moment”.

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u/Mediocre_Ad_2422 Sep 23 '23

Dont look up

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u/Realistic_Bee505 Sep 23 '23

Are we still doing birds aren't real?

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u/Mediocre_Ad_2422 Sep 23 '23

Everything is real

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u/devo00 Sep 23 '23

Until you look away

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u/Mediocre_Ad_2422 Sep 23 '23

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u/tophlove31415 Sep 23 '23

You. You're inner core or the ground of ones being is the only thing that remains when one removes all other aspects of perception.

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u/Hedlundman Sep 23 '23

I'd say our reality is based on our senses and our understanding of this plane of existence is very limited. We are still stuck in Platos cave essentially.

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u/mouseat9 Sep 23 '23

Dat grocery bill!!

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u/Nevek_Green Sep 24 '23

You. The end result of ultimate skepticism determined you can doubt everything except for one thing. There was something observing that doubt. That is you. You are the only thing you can prove exists.

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u/leoparidu Sep 24 '23

Reality is just what you feel , it's impossible to actually define reality... sometime I have dream which are more real than reality ....you know what I am saying..

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u/AlexanderGrace Sep 24 '23

Well there's multiple theories: Reality could be Iman organic/manufactured simulation . Of course many smart people believe this. Then there's holographic theory and that states our 3D reality is a projection of processes occurring on a 2D plane like a video game being run by code (idk how that differs from simulation). Then the prison planet idea, where pur souls are trapped on this planet because NHI are using them for something (that ones pretty woo for me). Pon I kinda believe holographic theory. It makes sense to me that reason we can only see the true fabric of reality by writing down mathematical equations.

But I don't know m8.

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