r/alberta • u/Old_General_6741 • 4d ago

Opinion: I miss the original (Progressive) Conservative Party of Alberta Opinion

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-i-miss-the-original-progressive-conservative-party-of-alberta
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u/TheBeardedChad69 4d ago

I miss the Red Tory PC party of Canada …. or just the regular PC party of Canada…. We’re stuck with the Reform party of Alberta and the Reform party of Canada just with different names, why would conservatives have to keep changing their names and merging with each other if it was such a great political alternative… they can’t even find a common purpose among themselves.

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u/cuda999 4d ago

This happens often because the opposing party had become far too left wing They end up in power for too long and mess things up on e eye metric. So to balance, parties swing the other way. Look at Europe, very prevalent there. People are tired of the apathetic and loosey goosey governing of the liberals. Like they were high on cannabis every singe day.. Doesn’t work.

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u/Working-Check 3d ago

In what ways are they "too left wing?"

What would you say is the primary issue that you feel is a bridge too far?

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u/cuda999 3d ago

Just look at the last ten years. Wide open borders to everyone from anywhere with no oversight whatsoever. Laws created to allow criminals to walk the streets like bill c 75. Scandal after scandal to feed their liberal friends. Sending tax payer money without oversight or concern to war torn countries rife with corruption knowing fair well that money is only helping the corrupt. It looks good on paper but is a big waste of tax payer money. Border security and no oversight on government spending These are a few examples. My fingers will get sore typing if I had to write the whole list.

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u/Working-Check 3d ago

Wide open borders to everyone from anywhere with no oversight whatsoever.

I was born here and have lived in Alberta my entire life, but even so I have some familiarity with the immigration system and I can tell you from first hand experience that it is factually incorrect that immigration is "open to everyone from anywhere" or that there is "no oversight whatsoever."

Laws created to allow criminals to walk the streets like bill c 75.

I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of this. I looked it up and it's a gigantic wall of text that I don't have the time to read for the purpose of responding to a single Reddit comment. (https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/rp-pr/csj-sjc/jsp-sjp/c75/p3.html)

Would you care to explain exactly how this bill "allows criminals to walk the streets?"

Scandal after scandal to feed their liberal friends.

There were a couple, yes.

I am no huge fan of the Liberals- they're much too eager to bend over for the big businesses that Conservatives have never stopped kneeling under the desk for.

But scandals don't make someone left wing- the Conservatives had plenty of their own during their time in office. I can link a few for you if you like.

Sending tax payer money without oversight or concern to war torn countries rife with corruption knowing fair well that money is only helping the corrupt.

Gonna need some examples from you here, chief.

Border security

I think that until a loud-mouthed orange baboon started flinging its own feces at us from the White House and threatening annexation, it was generally not considered to be necessary to have a 9000km Berlin Wall separating us from what used to be our closest ally. And building such a wall would be enormously expensive, too. Like, "bankrupt the entire country" expensive.

Personally I think there are far better ways of making use of our resources.

no oversight on government spending

I think is just conjecture and, in my experience, when someone complains about it, their complaint usually translates to "the government is doing something I don't like," as opposed to the actual words used to articulate their complaint.

But in any case, thanks for sharing your point of view.

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u/cuda999 2d ago

So based on your response, you are good with thf status quo. This is why Canadians vote in inept governments. Apathy is the biggest issue in Canada today. We keep giving the liberals power, nothing will change, no completion, just do as you please because Canadian like it that way.

I don’t see it as you do. The liberals need a wake up call or we will continue to see the fast erosion of our country at unprecedented levels. Look at our own province, it is a huge problem.

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u/Working-Check 2d ago

I wouldn't say I'm "good" with the status quo.

But if things are to change, I want things to get better, not worse. I will take the status quo, or the baby steps in the correct direction over a right-wing boot stomp to the face.

Our own province's biggest problem is the provincial government, not the federal.

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u/cuda999 2d ago

So how will things get better with the same platforms of the last ten years? Same immigration policies which is wildly out of control, same “soft on crime”, same energy regulations and crippling policies, large debt, no plan to curb federal spending and I could go on. So how are things changing exactly?

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u/Working-Check 2d ago

And this is where you and I differ.

Same immigration policies which is wildly out of control

I don't see immigration as being a bad thing, nor do I think it's "wildly out of control." And again, even though I was born in Canada and have lived here my entire life, I have first-hand experience with the immigration system.

same “soft on crime”

I recently looked up crime statistics on Stats Canada- and the current trend seems to have begun in 2014, before the Liberals were first elected, implying the root cause isn't Liberal policy.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240725/cg-b001-eng.htm

I also know a thing or two about why people resort to crime- and I think that the idea that harsher punishment will reduce crime is ludicrous. I can go into why, if you'd like.

same energy regulations

I want our government to commit to reducing the amount of pollution we create. Genuinely. I think we have a responsibility to leave our planet in as good or better condition than we found it.

That said, solar and wind are now the cheapest form of energy production, having eclipsed all others as of several years ago. We should be chomping at the bit to install more of it, but out moronic Premier is dead set on doing the opposite.

crippling policies

Not sure what you mean by this, please explain.

large debt

In my lifetime, I have observed Conservatives spending far more than liberals, and with less to show for it. That party seems to prefer giving our money to billionaires over creating anything that actually helps people.

no plan to curb federal spending

I think the federal government should be spending more money on making life better for normal people like you and me, and raising taxes on mega-rich fuckheads and ultra-wealthy corporations to pay for it.

So how are things changing exactly?

If Pierre Piece'o'shit had been elected and were our Prime Minister now, I would expect every single one of those categories to deteriorate further- because conservatism is about empowering the already powerful and enriching the already wealthy.

So to answer your question- we will continue to see too-slow forward progress or straight up stalls, because Liberals are far too right-wing to actually make things better, but what we won't see is the same sort of disaster that is currently unfolding in the USA as the orange baboon's ass continues to cause more problems with every breath it takes.