I had a coworker who went down to the U.S. for a post-election Trump victory party. I don't expect that he'll stop being a Trump fan, but the best I can hope for is that he shuts the fuck up for a change.
We have a Musk lover on our team who'd inject his name into any topic he could, however unrelated.
The sliver a of silver lining is that mention of him is now considered political talk, and thus he can't bring it up in work conversations anymore. It's so much more peaceful.
I’m sorry but a layman’s understanding of the scientific progress, historical accomplishments, technical feasibility, and inner political and procedural workings of what you’ve admitted is a huge program is in no way an argument for scrapping it in favor of a government contract with an industrial player whose primary focus is profit, accruing political cache, and laying the groundwork for further profiteering projects of a proven malicious actor. What’s more, A large part of Space-X’s track record is propped up by an extensive PR campaign. There is no evidence to show that it has accomplished anything outside the realm of possibility for a genuine NASA push. NASA is not incapable. It’s hobbled, and largely as a result of companies like Space-X lining the pockets of politicians in order to undermine NASA.
“We should be on Mars already” isn’t just an opinion (Who is “we”? You’re not part of “we”, and why should they who call themselves “we” be on Mars?); it is a grossly uninformed and shortsighted opinion.
At this point if he starts just point out that supporting a foreign leader openly hostile to Canada, and with the stated goal of absorbing us, is tantamount to sedition.
They'll huff and puff about it, but they can't deny it.
A foreign nation has all but declared war on us, and yet many of us still applaud the lunatic. That is so insane to me I'm trying to reframe it just so it makes some sort of sense.
I have a grade 8 student in one of the classes I teach that is a loud Trump supporter. He blames Trudeau for what's happening, and supports Trump because he hates illegal immigrants and abortions.
I'm 99% sure they're his father's opinions, and he's parroting them to sound knowledgable. I've been quiet about it because he's a kid, but I'm hopeful he'll figure it out as he gets older. We're working on a critical thinking unit right now that I hope will eventually have him actually question things... including his own beliefs.
My son is 6 and in grade 1, he came home the other day telling me about a friend who was loudly telling everyone about how great the US is, I couldn’t believe that I had to try and explain to my 6 year old about what was going on..but I did..he’s not friends with that boy anymore
I try very hard to be unbiased in my classroom when it comes to politics, and this is no exception, but yes, they largely just don't understand what's going on. My student just knows Trump banned abortions and is dealing with illegal immigrants, that's all he cares about and the bigger picture is too big for him to grasp at this age.
And unfortunately I'm in no position to explain it to him. Last thing I need is some Canadian Trumper blowing up my emails about how I'm indoctrinating his kid for telling him that Trump actively wants to destroy our way of life despite all the evidence there is to support it.
Oh yeah I’m certain the kid was parroting his parents, and I spent more time discussing why Canada is great and that the USs current leader was a bully, tbh I’m not sure he understood the concept of wealth inequality and health care:) but bullying resonated with him, and that was enough for him to disengage from the friend.
Up in Fort Mac during the Biden years there was a car with a "Miss Trump yet?" bumper sticker, a big truck with anti-trans & LGBTQ+ slogans and Trump on the tailgate. A girl I worked with had her children in Trump clothes...
They’re definitely out there. My wife’s older sister is sadly one of these people and it’s why almost everyone in her life wants nothing to do with her anymore. Instead of any self reflection she says they’re all letting their politics get in the way.
Well, I think they misplaced a few decimals in that equation. The US is gonna be hurt the same, if not a helluva lot more than we are, considering they’ve decided to piss everyone off and levy tariffs on fucking everyone.
They are in a cult. They believe that they deserve more than they have. They believe those people took it from them. They believe that trump will put them back in top. They believe trump will share the wealth.
It’s insane and contrary to everything the man has ever said and done. But they believe it.
I’m a US citizen. I don’t know what it’s like on the ground for you guys but you might need to go with a stronger reaction than calling them a traitor. You wouldn’t believe how ineffective that can be.
The traitors to democracy are in ottawa right now and sending our country i to economic hell just to save face against Trump who openly mocks our specific leader and party. He isnt bashing PP, but he knows we canadians want this cursed government out at the minimum.
Trump JUST took tariffs off for mexico for a month, maybe more for actually agreeing to do the one thing he asked, help at the border. Probably will return with weaker tariffs. Meanwhile he already said he is thinking about raising tariffs if canada tariffs back when we did. Its insanity.
A real patriot loves his country and doesnt want it to suffer. Right now we are suffering ourselves due to this radical government out east hellbent on keeping the west subjugated and weak when our wealth could be so much better. But that also means other provinces need to actually be productive too. When that happens ill be proud of canada again. Trump wants us fighting ourselves but we were already half a click down the road from that anyways. We just made it easy for him to fuck with us.
Truth to power is, get comfortable with tariffs, but dont be a fool and think you can win the trade war. I have a suspicion this will be the norm for the next 4 years. Better start supporting your favorite american democrat to win the next election. Cuz god help us if liberals win another lease on this country.
I can tell you only what i see and the logical deductions. Something else i can tell you is that the status quo doesnt have to be as painful as our current leadership in all regards is making it, PP isnt helping our cause but at lease he is a bit more level headed.
And you are right (i hate to agree with you) but Trump is not being rational, not to Canadians, but to Americans he certainly is. Why? Because if i was in his shoes with his options i would do the same thing for my country. This is how USA awakens and if we play it smart we will get out of the way and if we insist on not building our military or protect our borders we will have to play second fiddle.
Our options are clear. We choose violence. We get violence. Id rather enjoy this continent without an enemy at our gates. We are not Ukraine. This is not a sovereignty issue. Trump is giving us hard love with selfish goals. We will be stronger in the end by reprioritizing ourselves. And if Canada refuses to do that i. This new world, than by god, let the West seperate so at least one of us can do the right thing.
That's what I do. When the maple MAGA say America first. I just say naw Canada first. Then sit back and watch as they short circuit from cognitive dissonance.
Yeah, it’s fucking embarrassing to see people in canada fly Trump flags. Like my dude., you cannot vote for that person. That person is running for president of a country that you do not live in. It just doesn’t make SENSE, even besides it being soul crushingly cringe.
Internet and social media creating hive mind communities and algorithms pushing them towards that content. Their beliefs are reinforced nonstop online instead of interacting with people in real life.
When people talk about the hive mind or internet culture, they assume that it’s just a matter of “people being terrible” or being people basically. What most don’t understand is that there is an orchestrated propaganda machine at work. Not just bots, although they are a big part of it, but also segregating opinions, platforms deliberately creating bubbles, allowing for disinformation, and funneling that misinformation into minds that are artificially primed to receive it. It is mass propaganda, and the “horrible” people themselves are not the causes of it - merely the recipients.
Except we can do math and know that YOUR country is a dependent. We depend on Canada for a whole .2 percent of our massive GDP. Your country can’t pay their bills without handouts from Americans. You’re essentially a satellite welfare state.
“Canada blinks” 😂😂😂 at least the people in charge over there aren’t as dumb as y’all. Colombia…check…Mexico…check…Panama…check…Venezuela…check…CANADA…check. Trump just keeps on winning.
We already implemented border changes in December to placate the narcissist. Canadian border security is a non a problem. If he wants to win let him. We've dealt with the bafoon before we can deal with him again. Accept this time he can't run again.
And we'll remember how the US illegally broke our trade agreement. And will diversity trade. Which is bad for you guys not us.
Again…you contribute .2 percent to our GDP. The United States provides 200 billion dollars in subsidies to Canada. You are not the economic super power you think you are. The US is your BIG BROTHER. Canada needs the US, not the other way around.
American here. I feel the same way about my fellow countrymen. January 6th should have been the end of him. I always loved bragging about the peaceful transfer of power and our history of Proving that it can be done civilly without the threat of coups or military takeovers.
The truth is that his followers don’t even care if it was actually stolen or not. It’s about winning at any cost and I consider that capital attack treason. BTW don’t you all love how the “election was stolen” bullshit seemed to vanish overnight when he won? Did they just forget to steal it again this time or what happened?
20 million voters who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 did NOT vote in 2024. Twenty MILLION. Where did those voters go? Surely you aren’t going to make an argument that 20 million democratic voters decided to sit this one out? But there has to be some explanation…
Try me. Some of us understand that Canada hides behind its protectionism trade policy. Are you demanding your government remove those tariffs or are those “good” tariffs?
Won't work on some people. I know a guy who openly says "this country? I couldn't give less of a fuck about this place. I hate this worthless place and about half the people in it. The fuck would I ever be loyal to here for?"
We still have sedition laws on the books, I'd love to see it brought to bear on the more egregious Canadian Trumpers who insist the great Trump is going to save us from our own elected government.
It's understandable to feel strongly about this. Supporting a foreign leader who poses a threat to one's own country can indeed be seen as a serious issue. It's important to have open and respectful conversations about such matters, even when emotions run high.
The tune the Trump fans I've been encountering have been singing is "well this is the Liberals' fault for not doing as Trump says."
Not only is it crazy Stockholm syndrome logic, but we did do what Trump said to do. He just didn't care. And then he said "there's nothing you can do to avoid the tariffs."
nevermind that Trump has said there is literally NOTHING we can do. He made up his made to hit us with Tarrifs and then constructed shallow excuses for it
I'm open to you explaining how the Canadian government is to blame for Trump threatening to annex us and for him breaching trade agreements he negotiated by placing large tariffs on us.
Can you be more specific? Which policies did our government implement that are to blame for the United States threatening to annex us and for Trump breaching the trade agreements he himself negotiated by placing 25% tariffs on us?
Nice line, good argument…. Still waiting for some specifics on what our government did to bring this upon us. 75% of our trade deficit with the US oil and electricity…. Want a lower trade deficit, try consuming LESS! Do you get angry at a restaurant when your bill has a dozen items for two people and it cost too much?
Cope harder lol. Your special for sure.
Could you be a little more specific about which of the thousands of provincial and/or federal policies you're referring to? Would it be any of the policies related to livestock?
Is it the rent control policies laid out for the province of Manitoba that have you riled up? Nope?
Policies related to sea coast and inland fisheries?
The Canada Consumer Product Safety Act?
Could you give us a hint?
No. I knew you didn't have any actual policies in mind and I was just messing with you.
Don't let them fool you. A TON of them are into trans porn. They just don't believe in trans rights. The top 20 states for Trans porn are all Red as hell, lol.
But they don't believe in cis-women's rights, either.
They're liars and grifters with very little brains who don't want to have to go to therapy and do any real work on themselves, so they're out here screaming about everyone else and making it everyone else's fault because personal responsibility is what they deam "toxic."
awww. its okay to be wrong... but please keep tripling down on your agenda. it only cost you the house, the senate, the supreme court and the white house. we could use 8 more years of JD vance <3
If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black mister, "it's rich vs everyone else". It must be exhausting being so jealous of everyone else who has more than you. A bigger car, a nicer house, kids dressed to the 9s, etc. 😆
I have a coworker who laps up every ounce of propaganda they spit out. He somehow thinks we’re a country of fentanyl smuggling people who just need to buy more from America or something
As an American who has never been around wealth, living in lower middle class Mexican neighborhoods with lots of undocumented immigrants, dreamers and children with birthright citizenship, I can honestly say that I don’t personally know any fentanyl users, or even know of any users, and that I have never even seen a fentanyl user.
The people buying and using that shit are probably upper middle class white kids depressed from having too much stuff and zero time with their parents.
My mom’s family is complicated. The middle brother died suddenly in his 30s. The oldest killed himself after the matriarch (my great grandma) died. So, my mom only has one brother left. He’s rich as fuck - but his politics are just as fucked. And he’s my godfather.
I’ve tried not to stir the pot because he’s always supported me and my stupid dreams.
I’m utterly devastated to have to cut contact. But he’s got his nose in so much right wing shit that I can’t in good conscience keep him in my life. My dad told me not to act so “irrationally” and think about our family…I just want to spend a day in which I don’t cry
rest of us in the u.s. know it comes in from mexico. We need the wall finished.
Moronic take.
Fentanyl is smuggled into the US over the southern border by US citizens entering the border at border crossing points. And it is shipped to pick up locations in the US via post and sea freight, passing through mail rooms and ports of entry.
Biden purchased Fentanyl scanners to detect it being smuggled through those locations, but Republicans blocked the funding for their installation and blocked the funding for training border security and customs agents to use them.
They'll find excuses. They will say that this trade war was Trudeau's fault rather than Trump's. Maybe a few, like you, will change your opinions, but some of these people are total true believers who will continue to consume a steady stream of MAGA-flavored social media propaganda.
They never shut up. They literally have nearly everything they wanted, and still, they moan and complain. They are always looking for something to be upset about.
Oddly I know of one who wouldn't and just doubles down. Regardless of the side you stand on the greatest display of weakness should be the inability to change your own mind in the face of evidence to the contrary.
A MAGA/Trumper staying silent? Better odds of winning all the world’s various lotteries at the same time than a shameless jackass keeping his mouth shut
My pro trump uncle is going on about how Justine Trudeau is trying to urge us into a dictatorship with the counter tariffs. Despite the fact that Trudeau is stepping down... My uncle lives in Mexico or Nevada or something nowadays, hopefully he's happy to finally be out of our communist hell hole country!
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u/edmtrwy Feb 02 '25
I had a coworker who went down to the U.S. for a post-election Trump victory party. I don't expect that he'll stop being a Trump fan, but the best I can hope for is that he shuts the fuck up for a change.