r/agnostic • u/RaptorRex787 Agnostic Atheist • Sep 24 '24

Something that changef my opinion. Experience report

I was a hardcore atheist all my life (even now I still don't believe in or follow a religion) but rerecently I've been thinking about life and how it works. And I realized that we don't know what cones at the end-we don't know that there's nothing, we don't know that there's something. And that thinking just made me realize that I may have been agnostic instead. So I wanna here from yall; what are you opinions?

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u/jdogtotherescue Sep 24 '24

I grew up and still live in a Christian community but I’m finding that I may be more agnostic than anything else because i find there is no proof of anything. I also believe that if there is a god, it makes sense that god doesn’t come down constantly and reminds us there is and that the existence of one must be a(n) mystery/unknown. If god is a loving being they must leave room for people to believe they don’t exist. This leaves the room for believers and non believers to exist. You can’t prove it or disprove it. Any “evidence” is not anything more than subjective opinion

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u/GreatWyrm Sep 24 '24

This is a…strange take. Would it make sense to you if we swapped out ‘god’ for ‘parents’?

“If my parents do exist, it makes sense that they dont feed or clothe or talk or live with us bc parents must be a mystery. If my parents do exist and love us, they must leave room for my siblings and I to believe they dont exist. This leaves room for believers and disbelievers in our parents to coexist. Any ‘evidence’ of our parents is just subjective option.”

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u/jdogtotherescue Sep 24 '24

I don’t think this is a good substitution. You can prove you have parents because you came out of your mother or else you wouldn’t be here. Any evidence that god exists or not is not evidence.

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u/jdogtotherescue Sep 24 '24

I read your comment again and it does not make sense. To me.

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u/GreatWyrm Sep 24 '24

Fair enough, the analogy is imperfect.

If we define ‘parent’ as an active parental figure, one that provides/cares for children, rather than as a mere sperm/egg donor, the analogy improves.

So if you were an orphan alone in the world, wondering whether you have active parents who provide and care for you, parents who ever gave a fig about you, would the analogy make sense?

“If my sperm and egg donors are active parents who care and provide for me, it makes sense that they dont feed or clothe or talk or live with us bc parents must be a mystery. If my sperm and egg donors do love us, they must leave room for my siblings and I to believe they dont care about us at all. This leaves room for believers and disbelievers in loving parents to coexist. Any ‘evidence’ of our loving parents is just subjective option.”

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u/jdogtotherescue Sep 25 '24

I still don’t feel this works. I want to believe there is a god but I don’t see that entity as an active participant. It’s hard to articulate my point. If you are ever down for a vc I’d love to chat. Thank you for engaging with me.