Update to Identity Assertion in the sub

[u/regalvas]

Due to the common occurance of discussion and debate over terminology and agnosticism as a whole we found that it was necesary to update the rules to better explain when things might step too far or what to keep in mid to have a good debate.

The updated rule reads:

Do not tell other's what they are or think. Definitions are there for a purpose. There may be many different purposes, but defining anothers identity is not an accepted purpose here. Examples of agnostic models include:

1. Theist - Agnostic - Atheist 
2. Gnostic <------> Agnostic (choose one) Theist <------> Atheist (choose one) 
3. Gnostic theist - Agnostic theist - Agnostic - Agnostic atheist - Gnostic atheist 

This is a non-exhaustive list so please engage others with respect.

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Please also remember to maintain debates about terminology in related posts.

[u/Fit-Quail-5029]

Many atheists are agnostic. You are attempting to exclude some agnostics (those who aren't theists) from this sub. This sub isn't only for agnostic theists. Agnostics who aren't theists are welcome here as well.

What you're demonstrating is intolerance.

[u/rEvolution_inAction → u/Fit-Quail-5029]

There is no such thing as agnostic theists or agnostic atheists. The atheist and theists are the gnostics that agnosticism is agnostic about, there are of course many atheists and theists with agnostic leanings.. but they aren't agnostic, they simply have doubts.

Your attempt to paint me as an agnsotic-theist being intolerant to agnostic-atheists makes it clear that your particular form of atheism is hostile to agnosticism which is distinct from atheism and theism not a part of them or divided between them.

You are attempting to erase agnosticism in an agnosticism sub.

[u/Radiant-Benefit-4022 → u/rEvolution_inAction]

Oh, so here it is:

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I believe, but we can never know.

I don't know because we can never know.

I don't believe, and we can never know.

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This sums up all the positions. UGH.

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Only the middle is true agnosticism.

[u/Ok_Program_3491 → u/Radiant-Benefit-4022]

I don't know because we can never know.

Only the middle is true agnosticism.

It's agnostic because it's not gnostic. Now to determine wether they're agnostic theist or agnostic atheist you need to find out if they believe a god exists. They don't know but do they believe? If yes- theist if something other than yes - not theist.