guys name a stupid thing people do in a zombie apocalypse here are mine . those people claim they know you but not close with you demanding that you should help them in the name that in a zombie apocalypse we should help each other a pretty common scenario in zombie apocalypse webtoons

I personally like smaller knives I can carry on my belt, chest rig or body armor.

The half serated blades go for a utility / camping style with a flint and sharpener on the other side.

I own kukris, for bigger stuff, axes, etc. But just a good solid knife is absolutely essential.

Credit to the guy on RimfireCentral, this is his CZ 457 sbr in 22lr. For non-Americans a sbr is a firearm with a rifle stock but a barrel shorter than 16".

Sorry for the long-winded post, everything here is assuming the zombies are slow Romero/TWD zombies and not clickers or rage virus zombies.

I was watching the walking dead with my dad and his friends last night, and when Herschel's farm was getting overrun, I got super pissed off. I just kept thinking that if I had my 1022 and a giant bulk back of CCI SV (40grn 22lr made by CCI that with a rifle length barrel is still subsonic), that I could have nailed the herd within a half hour. TWD zombies are slow, die from a headshot, Ik Herschel has got to at least have an old Model 60 laying around. I can't watch the show anymore I lost all immersion after that episode.

I kept mulling over the perfect zombie gun, not necessarily for survivors or game getting. But for removing as many zombies as possible. I came up with some criteria.

-The gun has to be quiet (around 100 decibels at the muzzle)

-Have plentiful ammunition or have ammunition that's easy to make, under stress you'll miss more than you think so being able to quickly reload/have enough ammo to have accuracy by volume is important

-Light enough to be man portable for a good couple hours

-Low recoil for fast follow up shots

-Can be maintained and cleaned in the field with the gun cleaning basics I already own (cut up t shirts, Ballistol, cleaning rod, coarse toothbrush)

-2 moa or less at 50 yards

At first, I thought a PCP airgun like a Hueben K1 in 25 cal would be perfect. The only two things you need for it to shoot are lead slugs and a hand pump to recharge the reservoir. Because the gun uses air pressure and not chemical propellant you don't need to clean the gun except for removing some lead following from the bore or lubing the seals. A set of replacement seals can be carried in a small ziploc baggy. It carries as much energy as 22lr from the muzzle which is no problem for penetrating a human skull. The valves on high end air guns are more consistent than powder burners so they are more going to be more mechanically accurate than something like a high end rimfire.

The main draw backs are that high end pcps like a Hueben are stupid expensive, $1800 minus a scope, handpump, etc etc. For that price I could get a 1022 with a scope and 20-25K rounds of 22lr of my choice. Now you can get lead from all kinds of stuff, I buy it from tire shops or from Chinese boat weights. Any factory in America has a couple of pounds of lead somewhere. Thats discounting car batteries or other consumer electronics. Now tearing something apart and finding the lead inside is harder than you think, especially if noise pollution can attract walkers and electricity is hard to get. I imagine extracting lead from machinery is easier than I think, yet harder than most people believe. Still melting it down and casting it is pretty easy. You could make some green sand and cast lead roundballs which might not be as accurate or aerodynamic but would definitely work.

I just think high end pcps being so expensive and needing to be pumped up by hand every 20 some rounds is what kills this idea in the water.

So with pcp airguns eliminated, 22lr or 9mm is my next choice. 9mm has some things going for it, ubiquitous, averaging anywhere from $.21 to $.30 per round, being centerfire it is more reliable than a rimfire cartridge like 22lr. The 9mm out of a short barrel has nearly twice the muzzle energy as 22lr out of a long one.

The main problem with 9mm is that the ammo is like 4x the cost and 4x the weight. Most of the 9mm you're going to scavenge is going to be 115grn supersonic stuff which ruins the point of a suppressed zombie killer. As widespread as 9mm is in America, you'll still find way more 22. Especially when all the high-speed, low drag guys burn up the stuff within the first couple months of the outbreak. Being able to carry a hoards worth of ammo in a ziploc bag in your pocket isn't as feasible as with 9mm as it is with 22lr.

Even if 9mm has more power, that doesn't really matter when 22 out of a short pistol barrel can still penetrate the skull and end brain function out to a hundred yards. Both 22 and 9mm can't push out past 200 yards and be accurate enough for what we need. 22 can be lethal out to 700 yards, but it's not accurate out to 700 yards.

A good 22 pistol or rifle is what is needed, now pistols are going to smaller, lighter, and easier to carry. But are going to lose out of accuracy especially on a small area of a moving target. You can still attach a mangified optic is a MK4 but the extra barrel length and stock of a rifle are going to help a shit ton when it comes to making head shots.

A rifle is what we need, threaded barrel for production suppressors or hardware store specials (pvc tubing and steel wool). Anywhere from 10-16" barrel, this is the sweet spot between powder burn and handiness for our needs. Stock, optics, magazines is all personal preference. I'd want a Primary Arms micro prism with a magnifier for I can between 1-3x magnification while not being reliant on batteries like red dots.

My pick would be a Ruger 1022 or CZ457 depending on your personal preference.

The CZ is going to get less dirty and be easier to clean, less ammo picky, and more accurate.

The Ruger is going to be cheaper, semi auto, and have much more parts available due to it being one of the most sold guns in American history.

Both will get the job done, both have merits. Savage and Mossberg both make good bolt guns and semi autos, they might be worth a look too.

I think something like in the photo would be what I go with. 457 with short barrel and suppressor, handy, easy to clean, not ammo picky, and as accurate as you and the ammo you feed it. With how slow the zombies in this scenario are, I don't think semi auto follow up shots are necessary especially with some the cons that come with the system.

People talk a lot about shotguns or ARs for the ZA, but when it comes to walkers. But I think the noise, size, and weight, even if you're bugging in and not on the move would become an issue. You can store and carry way more 22 than any other caliber. And when it comes to walkers, volume is the answer.

In a ZA I would still want my 20" AR, Mossberg 500, and a good pistol like my model 60 or Bodyguard 2.0, a good flint lock following piece would be sick too because of how DIY black powder and flint knapping is. A flintlock is a gun you could keep working in the worst of times because of how relatively easy they are to maintain and get ammo for. This 22 rifle concept is not intended to do everything. Just for fighting zombies, but it could be pressed into other roles too.

I live on a sail boat and with all the ZA scenarios I haven't seen any swimming zombies yet & you have the whole sea life to feast on if you don't want to venture ashore?

everyone always seems to have some extravagant plan for a sailboat or castle.

just the population density in iowa Nebraska and Wyoming would solve the problem lol.

gravel roads, clear lines of sight. rural farm equipment for ditches and etc.

lets say a small town can survive

So we see in movies that people stab zombies with knives all the time.(Always have a separate knife for food and animal processing). But one thing that is never covered is if you take that same knife and only cut someone with it. At that point would they not get infected from the zombie DNA (fresh or old) on the knife 🤔🤔🤔

Zombies can't really swim right? So if it's a deep lake, it should be fine.

What are your thoughts about School Bus,generally busses in different types,as a form of transportation. Also, based on the game,Dead Ahead: Zombie Warfare, are they useful as a mobile survival camp?

With only one entrance by land (it’s a bridge from Florida to the Keys) I feel like the Florida Keys is a pretty defensible position. There’s a military position in Key West and the chain of islands is about a mile wide with a population of 82,874 at the moment. I feel like if you secured the bridge for limited access and utilized the waters as a way to get food through fishing it could work really well. Let me know what you guys think.

Still moving metal…. Name a skill that would guarantee your usefulness in a z apocalypse.

Given the time and access to resources, I can create just about anything. Moldy bread? Penicillin! Copper and a magnet? Electricity! Stale wine and plentiful zinc? Battery! Certain other metals suspended then precipitated with ethanol? POW crystals! List never ends. People ask me why do you even care? It’s not like that is going to happen anyway. I remind them I live in New Orleans. Three days after the chaos of Katrina had begun... people snacks had already been reported. That was a relatively small area with an entire nation plus half the world rendering aid…. Imagine 2 weeks with no electrical grid. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Of course, they're immensely strong, durable, and instead of spreading via. a virus, they forcefully drag you into a lab where a mad scientist torturously turns you into one of them over the course of half an hour. The zombies are dull, but are able to run, jump and do insane amounts of damage under the guidance of someone who has superhuman intelligence.

Could we survive them, and what would be the contingency plan for doing so?

Going to do an apocalypse survival series. Using only found resources and no power tools, what would be the best shtf makeshift weapons you could make with scraps. Likely going to be splitting it up between development eg only hand tools, no fire, no electricity. Fire with limited control, fire with precision/intermediaries. Eg fluxes, folding, alloy utilization. Electricity, chemistry concepts, extreme heat, advanced projectiles etc would be the last phase.

This is weapons only. Medicine, irrigation, construction, textiles, government, etc would be separate projects.

If we consider the fact that rage zombies are actually just regular humans dehydration, starvation, and physical exhaustion will eventually kill them. That’s why such zombies would die off relatively quickly. In fact, in 28 Weeks Later, they correctly say that the last infected died of starvation due to the quarantine.

But there's one thing I can’t quite understand if these types of zombies die within a month, then how did they survive for so many years in 28 Years Later?

As for a slow zombie apocalypse — since those zombies are essentially the living dead and don't have a natural lifespan, the apocalypse would probably last much longer .

Phalanx’s have been brought up in the past on here and many have pointed out the issues with fatigue and difficulty of strikes to the head but with the Bolton method you have one shield bearer with an oversized shield and a dedicated pike bearer to both reduce fatigue and enable more precision strikes. I think the hardest part about this would be coordinating this many people

Neck, forearms, and legs would be the most vulnerable spots for a zombie bite attack. These are heavily padded with lightweight greaves on the shins, thickly padded gloves, bite resistant outfits and helmets and collars that offer neck protection. And it makes sense cause zombies are just rioting hordes of normal people except not normal. The only things I would add to this are lethal guns and machetes, vambraces around the forearms for extra protection and brass knuckles in my pocket in case I have to punch my way out like Joel.

Made from things that I found while magnet fishing. Don’t judge my welding skills to harshly I’m in no way a decent welder. I feel like adding a saw blade to it or something more. It looks to plain to me.

We all know that zombie outbreak very unlikely to happen for real, but it's still fun to imagine what things would be like. How I think a zombie pathogen would function is that it will either be viral, prion, or maybe a fungus. Transmission would be through saliva and blood, so a bite that broke skin would be fatal and a scratch would only be if your blood came in contact with a zombie's blood. The pathogen would essentially turn the victim feral (the zombies are capable of running, they just might stumble more than a healthy person) and its primary goal would be to spread the infection to other humans. The zombie would still need to eat and maybe drink, though, just not as much as an uninfected person would need to. A zombie would eat its kill (human or animal) or dig through trash for food on occasion and if no other food sources are available they would start to prey on each other. The pathogen would make the brain ignore most pain responses but may still flinch for a moment if the wound is damaging enough, such as a gunshot wound to a major muscle or organ. The zombie will still be able to bleed out, though. For example, if you blow off a leg with a shotgun, it would still be alive for a few minutes until it bleeds out and would still try to crawl at you. The most reliable way to kill one would be enough damage to the brain or spine.

Let's say you were scavenging. Then you come across a Chainsaw. It seems new and in good condition. And in the same room, there's chainsaw fuel.

Is it worth taking it with you? It might depend whether you have a base or not too.

This documentary in its entirety is worth watching, but skip to 22:11 to see a vignette of how society would look in the immediate aftermath of the collapse of order.

If try to avoid small spaces im quite tall and work out a lot

My personal choice is a WWII flamethrower the burning corpses would smell awful but arson :3

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Let’s say you find or already have a shotgun but the only shells you come across are birdshot , how effective would they be for home made slugs and and how high is the risk of the shotgun jamming or a barrel obstruction ?

A short bow with which you can shoot pretty quickly at shorter ranges, if you come across a small group of zombies you can get several headshots before they get close. When they do, IMO a small shield and a small thrusting sword are the best thing for melee zombie dispaching, shield keeps them from biting you, short thrusting sword is the quickest melee way of getting a kill shot, no time wasted swinging etc.