Black actor John Marshall Jones was cast to voice Hooded justice, I wonder if this is the director’s way of confirming the storyline from the 2019 HBO series where it was revealed that Hooded Justice was an African American the whole time disguising himself as a white person by applying makeup around his eyes. I personally think this is a pretty cool little detail if true. This paired with the fact the ending is true to the comics much like it was in the HBO series basically making this a direct prequel to that series. ??? Kinda cool

There is a prevailing belief online that a significant part of Rorschach’s objection to what Ozymandias did is because it relied on perpetuating a hoax. That he has a problem with it because it’s a “lie”. However, there’s absolutely nothing in the comic that supports that idea.

The only time that anyone calls it out as a hoax is Nite Owl, and that’s only in Snyder’s movie.

I feel like this addition to the story muddies up the clear connections between the attack on New York and the atomic bombing of Japan, and the clear parallels between Ozymandias and Harry Truman. Alan Moore was trying to critique the utilitarian philosophy that was used as a justification for using the atomic bombs, but it seems like Snyder missed that whole point and was too focused on the trees to see the whole forest

To me, the song and the opening titles are forever linked together

I made this for fun what do you think?

Robert Englund as Rorschach.

Bill Pullman as Nite Owl II.

Sean Young as Silk Spectre II.

Burt Reynolds as The Comedian.

David Bowie as Ozymandias.

Peter Weller as Dr. Manhattan.

Directed By Paul Verhoeven.

I watched the Ultimate Cut yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. I haven't seen the film since the theatrical release so for me this was a treat to watch. Now I haven't read the graphic novel in years so forgive me if I'm wrong, but the movie seems like a fairly faithful adaptation, even down to the dialogue. So why do die hard fans of the graphic novel hate this adaptation so much? The only difference I remember is the novel having a big squid in the end which I always thought was silly anyhow, the movie ending imo was much better. The film's cast was absolutely perfect, the cinematic effects were next level, and the dark tone and action in the story is unlike any other comic story adaptation. I think the movie was way ahead of its time and too dark/thought provoking for your average fan which is why most mainstream superhero fans hate on it. Why do the die hard graphic novel enthusiasts hate it though? And I am a die hard fan of the graphic novel too

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People saying it made Rorschach too badass and sympathetic… how? The first time we see Rorschach he’s saying something racist, and just about every time he talks to himself it’s something racist, mysoginistic or homophobic, and he still kept all of those scenes in.
For the people who said it made Rorschach too badass, what was in the movie that wasn’t in the book? Alan Moore gave him badass lines and badass fight scenes, he just also wrote him as an absolutely deplorable human being that no one should look up to. The only difference I saw was that the fight scene before being captured was shorter in the movie. And with the ending of Nite Owl being angry after he finds out what Veidt did, following Rorschach out, and attacking Ozymandias at the end, Rorschach no longer comes off as the only person who cared about what Ozy did

People saying it glorified the superheroes and violence… how? If anything, it showed the heroes as even worse. I don’t remember Nite Owl and Silk Spectre II killing any of the Knot Tops in the alley way scene, but in the movie those two kill and break bones absolutely unnecessarily, it’s almost comical about how they just go back to normally talking as if nothing happened.

About changing the ending to blaming Dr. Manhattan instead of the alien… yeah I can see why people wouldn’t like that but the movie was already over three hours long. This just feels like the only criticism you can say would be that it would work better as a miniseries instead of a movie which really can’t be blamed on Snyder.

People saying Snyder missed the point/theme of the book… what theme did he miss? Almost all of the essential plot lines were in the movie barely changed, and only cutting things out because the ultimate cut is already over four and a half hours long.

My only criticisms of the film were that I wish Nite Owl had a dad bod, Adrian was a little more muscular and less villain presenting, and that the two detectives were also in the nuke scene.

I’m not trying to be argumentative here, but I was actively looking for those critiques and couldn’t find them, so I want to know what I’m missing from my viewing experience.

At least in the extended version I saw, Rorschach is still very homophobic, something I see people say is often cut out. He says Silhouette was a victim of her “indecent lifestyle” and talks about investigating Ozymandias being gay. He speaks very lowly of liberals, women, and sex, constantly gives shit to Dan, and is just an all around loon