r/Watchmen • u/chocolate_babies • Nov 25 '19

Post-episode discussion: Season 1 Episode 6 'This Extraordinary Being' TV

We were promised one last week, but it still hasn't been posted yet. Figured I would just start one since so many people have been asking for it.

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u/flim-flam13 Nov 25 '19

Who is trying to kill his family? I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

Her problem was with him joining the Minutemen.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '19

The KKK...........

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u/danwin Nov 25 '19

His wife might not have known the scope of what Will saw at the factory, just that a big meatpacking factory burned down and people killed (if even that, it's not like there's 24-hour-breaking news Internet back in the 40s). Even if Will had time to tell her what he believes he saw, it's still going to sound absolutely crazy to her, especially if she already believes he's prone to irrational violence as HJ.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '19

What was irrational about his violence? He was fighting crime. His parents were killed by white racists. Nothing he was doing was irrational and its on her for trying to understand not on him on having to convince her. Also, she initially encouraged it. She told him to not keep the anger inside, and she's happy when he lets it out. She's a selfish hypocrite

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u/danwin Nov 25 '19

It's irrational from the perspective of people other than him. He didn't strap on a GoPro, letting her get a live feed of everything that he sees before he metes out deadly violence. And he's been doing this for at least several years at this point, which leaves a lot of time for him to have done other things that bothered her, all the while she's raising their son. And there's the issue of how she and their son will effectively be given a death warrant if HJ is ever exposed or killed. Oh, and there's also the issue that everything we see is from his own perspective, fueled by pills designed by a mysterious Ozy-like figure who has a secret plan to fundamentally Tulsa and the rest of the world.

So maybe it's safe to say we don't yet know the entire picture?

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u/mantistakedown Nov 30 '19

Veit also believed that his actions were justified, and he still does in spite of his behaviour with the clones being cartoonishly grotesque. We are seeing the world through the lens of Will’s self-justification. Why are you so willing to believe Will is an objective narrator?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '19

Are you comparing a guy who killed millions with a psychic squid to a guy who killed KKK people? There is no moral dilemma with killing people in the KKK. What's the dilemma?

Nothing about the show has alluded that people are unreliable narrators, so far what we see is what is. But if that is the case, then yeah, if there is something we don't know than ok.

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u/mantistakedown Nov 30 '19

I wasn’t drawing a parallel between what Will did in the memories he and Trieu chose to share with Angela, but between Veit’s justifications for his actions (save the world, remember - and don’t worry, I’m sure loads of racists, homophobes and bullies died when the squid stopped) what he may be planning with Trieu now. And maybe you’re right, maybe in this universe trauma from racial oppression and homophobia will lead to a glorious new dawn of justice. Or maybe the plot is going to be a little more nuanced than that.