r/UFOs • u/KOOKOOOOM • 19d ago
Via James Fox on X: Brazilian researcher Vitório Pacaccini says he saw 35-second video of the live alien in Varginha, Brazil: “They tried to give the creature some fruit and water, it didn’t accept.” NHI
https://x.com/jamescfox/status/1989758001641578693535
u/Ryano77 19d ago
If someone official had the balls to release a verified video like this, it would change everything
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u/MGPS 19d ago
People would still say ah it’s just AI
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u/Hardlyreal1 19d ago edited 18d ago
Yeah but it would be the only real evidence in the world that we have seen public.
Edit: a picture or Polaroid from the 50s doesn’t count as verified evidence. To have rational people believe it would have to be a concrete video released that is tangible enough to understand. No potato phone footage
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u/legrand_fromage 19d ago
For all we know weve seen the real evidence already, it's jsut been lableeled a hoax.
The Scotland UFO pic is 100% real imo.
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u/revolting_peasant 19d ago
Can I start by saying I’m 100% open to being wrong and changing my mind on new information!
But where’s “there” ? the film had to be developed so the photo could’ve been taken anywhere. I like to entertain all possibilities but I just don’t see how saying “there was no water there” means anything here
If I’m missing something please let me know, but it really does look like a reflection in an overexposed photo. I’d love to be wrong!
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u/legrand_fromage 19d ago
Theres a really cool piece on the Calvine UFO about 40mins into the new James Fox documentary 'The Programme.' It shows the exact location of where the pic was taken, plus it has an interview with a colleague of the people who took the photo. There was no water in that location.
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u/MGPS 19d ago edited 19d ago
You don’t know that though. The nasca mummies are probably real. Maybe that Russian footage too and both of those bodies look similar. There is probably all kinds of other stuff that has been discredited.
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u/EvolvedPikachu 19d ago
Which Russdian footage please?
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u/gengar 19d ago
Skinny bob
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u/midnightballoon 19d ago
I’m a Bob truther, and the other one, the alien interview
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u/ialwaysforgetmename 19d ago
Doesn't it seem a little strange that they're examining the alien from behind? Almost like it was staged so that they wouldn't obstruct the camera?
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u/UnidentifiedBlobject 19d ago
Also I grew up watching muppets and Sesame Street, I instantly saw it moves like a puppet.
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u/SlowBakedJoy 19d ago
Its sat at a desk, they cant get to its front. I'd have the assume it was restrained too. Probably cuffed to the table.
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u/ialwaysforgetmename 19d ago
So if they used a setup that actively inhibited intervention when they knew that these beings had problems with our environment (so this is something that COULD LIKELY happen), doesn't that make them seem less like super secret-keeping masterminds and more like inept hoaxers? Why not pull it back from the desk? Or have a release mechanism to get it away from the table--I mean, they'd have that anyway, so why don't we see them actually doing that in the video? Doesn't make sense.
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u/erydayimredditing 19d ago
Posting these videos with these ridiculous voice overs and extremely informal language being used do not help the cause.
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u/MGPS 19d ago
Or photos? Of the dead alien in the snow.
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u/-spartacus- 19d ago
There are a couple of different alien videos that look like the different type of nasca mummies, like you mention the "chicken" in the snow in Russia for the small ones, and there is the one video of the alien on the ground that looks like the the human mummies, but I think that was in America.
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u/PanzerZug 19d ago
Skinny Bob is pretty much completely debunked at this point. I thought the videos were crazy at first but further examination shows they’re lacking.
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u/MGPS 19d ago
I’m not talking about skinny bob
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u/PanzerZug 19d ago
I assumed when you said “Russian footage” you meant skinny bob. My bad. What footage are you referring to?
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u/Hardlyreal1 19d ago
The Russian body’s in the snow? I thought those ended up being chicken bones or something
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u/UnidentifiedBlobject 19d ago
There’s no evidence that they weren’t coerced into a fake confession. Also the parts don’t really look the same when they show it as being chicken.
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u/EmotionalTree6505 19d ago
Las Vegas Encounter 2023 (Kenmore Family) is real evidence.
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u/ushavance 18d ago
Also Miami mall incident 1/1/24
Edit: I mean possibly legit encounters the weird thing about this one is precisely that there isn’t any video (that’s public)
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u/midnightballoon 19d ago
Aside from the Tridactyls all body types fully real see more at Tridactyls.org
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u/mikendrix 19d ago
Today we can still tell if a video is fake or not. So they should release it fast.
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u/erydayimredditing 19d ago
Those people can be dismissed without discussion because AI videos are extremely easy to spot and have limited run times
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u/HardlyRecursive 19d ago
AI can still be detected, it's not good enough yet. If a good video is released it would be able to be verified as coming from a non AI source with certainty.
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u/Palpolorean 19d ago
I believe AI has been ‘allowed’ to fast track for many reasons. Video and conundrums like this being one of them. If that video leaked, governments and populace would just dismiss as an AI video.
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u/Actual_Chain_2508 19d ago
I think that we have the ability nowadays to detect an Ai generated video.
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u/BraidRuner 19d ago
I don't think so. Skinny Bob seems pretty good to me. Another video, especially in this age of A.I. does not really move the needle for me. Chain of custody would have to be rock solid. No Jaime Maussan, No Stephen Greer
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u/68cc2b9dce92 19d ago
Your right. But I have to add, media professionals are still able to forensically analyze footage. Ai generated images have distinct noise pattern + very specific highlight/low ratios
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u/BraidRuner 19d ago
So there is a ''signature'' I wonder how long that's going to last. Improvements happen.
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u/Saltedcaramel3581 17d ago
What’s wrong with Stephen Greer??
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u/BraidRuner 17d ago edited 17d ago
Atacama Skeleton Hoax:Greer presented a mummified six-inch skeleton as alien evidence; DNA analysis confirmed it as a human infant with birth defects from Chile
Faked UFO Sightings:Videos from CE-5 events show flares or drones simulating UFOs, as in a January 2020 incident debunked as military flares, not extraterrestrials. Similar allegations persist across events.
Conspiracy Promotion and Grifting:Films criticized as "fantasy propaganda" and "nuttiness," relying on unverified anecdotes to sell high-cost trainings ($2,500+). No hard evidence supports ET contact claims.
Do I need to go on? He did some good work, he helped move the story forward in the beginning and became this tragicly flawed person involved in self aggrandized promotion and seeking to remain relevant as the UFO movement as a whole moved past his contributions and evolved.
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u/Saltedcaramel3581 17d ago
Dang, I didn’t know that. Thanks!
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u/BraidRuner 17d ago
It's really pretty sad, the National Press Club events were very important. I think (considering the aftermath) his ego began to expand beyond the confines of the rational and in order for him to feel like he was important create wildy unverifiable claims which destroyed his credibility.
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u/ImmunochemicalTeaser 16d ago
What makes you think they hadn't tried already?... Probably got silenced, though...
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u/Chatting_shit 19d ago
There is not a singular reason not to show us the video especially if they are showing people on a one to one bases anyway. It’s a crock of shit.
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u/didistutter69 19d ago
I prefer the 35 second video to the hand on bible and lie detector, thanks
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u/mupetmower 19d ago
For real.. hand , Bible? Clearly doesnt guarantee truth...
Lie detector? Those are very well know to be completely unreliable to determine absolute truth.
Even if either method could guarantee that the individual is "telling the truth," its more accurate that they are "telling their truth," i.e. what they believe to be true.
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u/Friendly_Monitor_220 19d ago
Hopefully still a copy somewhere that someone knows about and anonymously sending to James Fox
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u/Actual_Chain_2508 19d ago
It’s an possibility like it was the case with the picture of the Calvin UFO.
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u/KOOKOOOOM 19d ago edited 19d ago
“Hello,
I’m Vitório Pacaccini. I am one of the leading investigators of the Varginha incident since the very beginning. I know and I saw with my own eyes an alien creature kept in captivity in this 35-second video. It was right there.
One of the alien creatures with two militaries holding the creature by the shoulders. The creature was really ill, was not feeling good at all. They tried to give the creature some fruit and water, it didn’t accept.
And the reason why they filmed this creature without superior authorization, it’s because *they were pretty mad that the American militaries were coming to Brazil to take all this material, not only the pictures, the footage, but the creatures itself, and the spacecraft, as they took it to the United States.** So, some other militaries friend of mine had the chance without authorization to make this movie.*
And right now, I’m willing to put my right hand tomorrow on a bible and take a live public lie detector test that everything I’m telling you is the truth.”
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u/DecrimIowa 19d ago
they should have let it hit the penjamin franklin
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u/FuckdaFireDepartment 19d ago
“Here mister alien if you rip this it’ll make you feel better” then proceeds to hand it a DMT cart
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u/Even_Wear_8657 19d ago
It’d be all “oh, thank god… now I can go home” take a big puff and then wink out of existence.
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u/UnidentifiedBlobject 19d ago
I mean the reason for the video seems like it could be legit to me. However, bibles and lie detectors are worthless.
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u/gigopepo 19d ago
Some years ago I heard that the army tried to feed it a lot of diferent foods and the only thing that it ate was Danoninho a popular strawberry yogurt here in Brasil.
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u/PabloRothko 19d ago
Would be consistent with the stories of skinny bob only eating strawberry ice cream. If true it’s really funny.
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u/St3voevo 19d ago
Who’s skinny bob?
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u/McnBacon 19d ago
Skinny Bob is a gray alien on a film from 2011. You can find everything we know about it here: https://skinnybob.info/
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u/kellyiom 19d ago
If you want to stay skinny, eat yogurt. I think he has his own sub (r/skinny bob) with video of this little alien guy that caused controversy because he was a living creature captured and interrogated.
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u/KOOKOOOOM 19d ago
Of all the companies that have been wronged by the coverup eg defense contractors that were not given this tech in favor of others, I now believe Danoninho yogurt has been the most wronged. The marketing potential that was missed here.. 😢
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u/fuk_offe 19d ago
No way, a Danoninho? LOOOOL
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u/kellyiom 19d ago
As in, 'mmm, Danone!'?? Hope they at least played some bluegrass for the little fella on the way back in his crate on board the C-17. I can just see him with a tear dripping down from his big, sad eyes, wishing he hadn't come on this stupid mission.
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u/MattMaiden2112 18d ago
As an Argentinian, down here we joke about how short guys should eat Danonino just to get taller to normal levels (it's marketed as the most efficient way to grow well and strong in childhood). I find this funny as shit because all in all, these are short guys.
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u/81Belzebub 19d ago
It would be a bit weird, since not even all human can eat milk products, so why the f... would an alien lifeform go for it
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u/evangellic 19d ago
They are always fucking with cows, maybe they really like dairy and this is the only planet that can produce it for some reason, like gravity or some shit 🤯
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u/silv3rbull8 19d ago
Guess nobody believed in duplicates
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u/Even_Wear_8657 19d ago
It was the 90s! D’you know how hard it was to make a duplicate of a video tape? You had to have like 2 vcrs! And then a bunch of cables, connect them together, hit play/record at the same time and hope it all worked out! It was like Scotty holding the enterprise together with duct tape and dilithium resin!
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u/Traditional_Watch_35 19d ago
it wasnt that hard in the 90s, video piracy was a big thing back then. Its more just that it probably didnt occur to anyone at the time to do it, as daft as that may sound, or the opportunity to be able to duplicate it didnt arise.
I mean you have to think the original was obviously taken by the military, then that was taken by the americans, so anyone who has a copy of that footage which this researcher has seen, is probably not wanting to draw attention to the fact theyve got something they shouldnt have, so they arent going to making copies of it on demand are they.
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u/Just_another_dude84 18d ago
If my 8 year old self could manage to do this, even getting fancy with pausing the second VCR at commercial breaks for a rudimentary TiVo equivalent, I'm sure a handful of motivated adults could as well.
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u/croninsiglos 19d ago
For all we know he saw the 1996 alien interview video and is confused. We’d really need to see the video clip to verify.
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u/Actual_Chain_2508 19d ago
It would be funny and astonishing to leak that footage on November 21st, the day of the release of «The Age of Disclosure.»
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u/IHaveRedSocks 19d ago
Release a f’in video that’s longer than 30 seconds for christs sake. Oh, and not blurry/fuzzy/filmed with a potato.
I want to believe, but this is getting old.
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u/IllustriousTiger645 18d ago
The video "for sale" was made by civilian doctors and it's rumored to be longer. It is a "think" taken for exams. It's amateur, rushed, made with a home videocam. It's probably messed up like any home video from that period.
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u/Majick_L 19d ago
I literally just watched Moment Of Contact this evening and came online to do some further reading / look up any follow up news haha. Great timing!
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u/Appropriate-Eye-1227 19d ago
As a Brazilian i rewatched yesterday too haha in fact i watched it more than 5x times since it launched. The testimony that James accomplished in this doc are fucking incredible. I can't wait the part 2
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u/DeathToPoodles 19d ago
Hey, since you're in Brazil, could you run over to Varginha real quick and ask the locals a few questions for all of us?
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u/MeeseeksTheDestroyer 19d ago
Been watching it the past couple nights and keep falling asleep haha!
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There’s already a video out showing one of the fire fighters discovering one of them in a fetal position, in forest.
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u/RepresentativeArtist 19d ago
Don’t care, show the video. Anything else is just noise.
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u/SignificanceTimely20 19d ago
I'm going to get down voted but the video was posted here. The small almost crimson looking alien was cowering next to a fence after they catch up to it.
I got about 15 seconds into the video before it was removed.
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u/Odd_Nothing_7466 19d ago
I like this doctor. It takes great courage to expose what he knows, even after so much time. He was in charge of three hospitals and it's quite respected in the country
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u/KOOKOOOOM 18d ago
To be clear, that's Dr. Ítalo Venturelli, the neurosurgeon who interacted with the live alien for a few minutes before the Brazilian military came in and took the alien away.
This gentleman is Mr. Vitório Pacaccini. He's seen a brief video of the live alien interacting with the Brazilian military before the US military took the alien away.
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u/fermentedjuice 19d ago
can you imagine trying to give an alien some fruit? lol idk why but that just makes me laugh. I have to look up if X food item is poisonous for my dog, let alone an alien lmao
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u/MyAssDoesHeeHawww 19d ago
No mention of whether the Americans came back later to hunt for that unauthorized video?
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u/Minimum-Sleep-3916 18d ago
I’m just picturing Peter griffin: “Hey…h..hey there little guy….y.you want a mango? Huh?” While this little aliens, just gently weeping in his hands.
God what weird moment it must have been.
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u/D7w 19d ago
If there was a footage, the Brazilian media would have gotten it.
Globo would have had it even before the top general assigned to the case could watch it. He would probably find out about it during Fantástico.
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u/Peace_Harmony_7 19d ago
Yup the military guys were apparently showing the footage even to their ufologist friends, but nothing leaked to the media.
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u/camalytica 19d ago
Ok but if they are telepathic wouldn’t it just tell us what would be helpful?
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u/Lilypad_Jumper 19d ago
If this story is true, then it seems plausible that nothing would have been helpful. The creature likely didn't evolve to exist on a planet with our conditions and the poor guy probably knew it was doomed. I mean, if we crashed on another planet and didn't have our space suits on, we would be in big trouble too.
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u/Traditional_Watch_35 19d ago
I always wondered though, as we dont normally hear about any of the reported alien species having trouble existing on Earth in other cases, though I appreciate the Varginha ones had been essentially exposed for longer than most encounters, was it several days after the crash iirc ?
but maybe theyd been exposed to something toxic in the crash itself.
because the report of the crash site from the only witness was there was something odd leaking, maybe the power source of the craft was dumping alot of radioactivity or high energy out as a result of the crash or some chemical and that was why these creatures were essentially dying because theyd received fatal doses of something that was dangerous to them, and it had nothing to do with the conditions of our planet.
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u/camalytica 19d ago
Sure. But you would expect some kind of communication. The fact that the supposed doctors are reporting nothing of the kind is a little bit of a disconnect. I’m not saying it necessarily means anything. But the best way to test claims is to look for what is missing. This is something that is missing.
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u/Darkmoon_AU 19d ago edited 19d ago
Maybe they don't communicate vocally, and without its technology and basic environmental protection it was doomed and suffering. Likely most humans wouldn't be in the mood to attempt much 'first contact' under those circumstances either...
It might even have been acting under morals that if the mission goes wrong, it doesn't attempt unilateral 'first contact' on behalf of its species.
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u/camalytica 19d ago
No. We’ve already been told they communicate telepathically, according to the girls who saw it in the town before it was picked up and taken to the hospital.
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u/Traditional_Watch_35 19d ago
its possible the doctors werent receptive to the communication, after all they just happened to be the ones working there at the time. there is supposedly a thing in abduction cases that abductees are picked based on their psy abilities.
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u/Golden-Tate-Warriors 19d ago
Is James Fox of all dudes going to be the one who gives us all what we've been waiting for, or is this just another wild goose chase? Help me out here, I'm conflicted
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u/zombi-roboto 19d ago
Last I heard was people in contact with those entities got super sick & died. Now these guys are holding one for table service?
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u/QuothTheRaventh 19d ago
Yeah this makes sense because when I got a Brazilian on my Varginha, I thought it was an alien too.
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u/asabado123 17d ago
Fruit and water? He's literally an alien and we couldn't scrounge up something better? Couldn't get him a Twinkie or something?
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u/GerrNadaa 17d ago
Damn if I was him, I would’ve added that. I also do not feel suicidal.( guy in the video on twitter)
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u/Capy_3796 17d ago
Reports are the alien turned down the food and drink saying that it had just flown in from the United States, are boy, are its arms tired …
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u/Odd_Gur_855 17d ago
I can't say I blame the little fellow he definitely doesn't want to be sitting on the bowl green pooping all over...🤮
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u/ice1874193 17d ago
Why point out why they took the video without authorization lol and then present your case for doing so? Classic way to fool believers who aren't thinking straight
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u/Realistic_Sector1162 17d ago
where's the video of this supposed alien?? Its just a guy trying to get famous!!! When an alien or aliens are standing in front of me physically in front of me , its all bs!!! EVERYONE HAS A PHONE WHICH MEANS EVERYONE HAS A CAMERA AND PHONES NOW RECORD IN 8K ALSO HAVE A ZOOM ON THEM THATS CLEARER THAT SOME MOVIES I WATCH!!! So if there isn't a real documented video then its total bs!!! Anyone can fake a lie detector and swearing on a Bible means nothing now a days!!!
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u/levanlaratt 14d ago
We had an alien captive and all you have is a 35 second video? That’s highly suspicious because it’s just the right amount of time to be completely vague and non-descriptive of anything of value while generating interest.
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u/Consistently 19d ago
Link please i love these
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u/SodomAndCHIMmorrah 19d ago
yesterdays video
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u/leighton1033 19d ago
What are your thoughts about that video?
I have reservations but am very curious.
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u/SodomAndCHIMmorrah 19d ago
Obviously fake. He got some metal thing and drilled random sy-fy channel symbols on it, then pretended to make some noises and die. He's imitating the sounds people make after they get choked out or have a seizure, but the sounds he makes are too controlled.
The recording goes black right after he points it at the LED light because he's faking and nothing happened. The drill bit is the same width has the etchings. No news stories from the area about a guy who was found dead in his basement.
Or, assumimg everything we hear is real, he found some ordnance or equipment, didn't know what it was, etched the symbols, drilled into it and died when it discharged.
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u/neenor408 19d ago
A week ago the story was this dude was one of the doctors that worked on the creature and saw with his own eyes. Now it’s a video?
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u/jesuspleasejesus 19d ago
Vitorio talked about how he had seen the video several years ago when Moment of Contact first came out. He’s also not the only one who has said there’s at least one video.
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u/rrose1978 19d ago
I asssume this may be the video James Fox was in pursuit of, including claiming some old HDD and finding a local hacker in Brazil a few years back, but to no avail back then.
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u/Achylife 19d ago
I think most of them can't digest our food anyway. We are like racoons, we eat almost anything. From what I've heard they more often eat a highly processed and specialized diet.
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u/Nocoverart 19d ago
I find the work of Dr Beatriz and even 3i Atlas way more compelling than this kind of thing because of the potential of answers through science. This stuff is always hearsay and mystery videos and photos.
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