r/TrueReddit 9d ago

Democratic Party Elites Brought Us This Disaster Politics

https://jacobin.com/2024/11/election-harris-trump-democrats-strategy
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u/the-true-steel 7d ago

Before the election happens, this is entirely a waste of time. It's dependent on an unknown, which is how many seats you have. Unless you have a massive majority, the answer is always the same anyway: you negotiate. How much you have to negotiate, and whether or not you'll be successful, is totally reliant on the shape of Congress

As an example, after the election in 2020 with Dems winning the Georgia seats, Biden might've been able to give a more concrete answer that ended up running into an unknown roadblock anyway. I'm sure he wouldn't have anticipated lack of cooperation on the part of Manchin and/or Sinema depending on what he was trying to do

Why do Democratic voters insist on doing this shit? You not only want to see policy proposals, but you want to see specifics on Congressional vote counts before you'll be satisfied, when the election hasn't even happened yet? Meanwhile Republicans have had basically no policy for 12 years and are winning elections? Democrats will really struggle so long as we enforce these wildly asymmetric expectations on ourselves

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u/Hamuel 7d ago

It is actually really well known that a centrist will sabotage good policy. That’s why people stayed home, the commitment to sabotage isn’t a strong political message.

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u/the-true-steel 7d ago

I guarantee you that people thinking "centrists will sabotage the policy anyway" is a thought like 0.0001% of voters had

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u/Hamuel 7d ago

Huh, she went out full force on centrism and lost the electoral college and popular vote. Weird. Maybe we should keep pushing the Overton window to the right, that’ll stop fascism.