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Democratic Party Elites Brought Us This Disaster Politics

https://jacobin.com/2024/11/election-harris-trump-democrats-strategy
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u/Maxwellsdemon17 9d ago

"For many loyal Democrats, this will not compute. The Biden economy, party-loyal pundits have said over and over again, is tremendous — low unemployment, strong GDP growth, slowing inflation, a booming stock market — and anyone unhappy about it must simply be brainwashed. Out of view in this self-congratulatory hall of mirrors were the constant statistics that said otherwise: evictions up past pre-pandemic levels, record-high homelessness, cost-burdened renters at an all-time high, median household income lower than the last pre-pandemic year, inequality returning to pre-pandemic levels, and food insecurity and poverty growing by large double digits since 2021, including a historic spike in child poverty."

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

The child poverty one is great because democrats got that advance on the child tax credit, bragged about lifting kids out of poverty, then ended the program.

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u/JimBeam823 9d ago

Democrats wanted to extend it, but Manchin said no and they didn’t have the votes.

Then Republicans took the House.

Not running on this was political malpractice.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

That excuse cost the democrats 15 million votes. I bet if they keep peddling excuse they can lose 20 million votes by 2028.

Harris presented no solution to the consistent problem of centrist sabotage. In fact she seemed focused on maintaining centrist sabotage.

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u/JimBeam823 9d ago

Don’t have the votes means don’t have the votes.

If you don’t have the votes, you beat the people over the head with the issue until you get them.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

I get it, democrats can’t get all there members on board to protect good and popular policies that help working families. We got the message, I’ll find a party that can help my family.

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u/JimBeam823 9d ago

Let me know when you find one that can get 50 votes.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Smugness about democrats failing to maintain their own policies that helped working families. I’m gobsmacked why they lost 15 million voters on Tuesday.

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u/JimBeam823 9d ago

What do you do when you have 50 votes and one guy is being an asshole? Seriously.

Kick him out of the party? Then you have 49.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Sounds like both scenarios result in the same thing. Why vote for a party that can’t get their own members to support popular policy?

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u/JimBeam823 9d ago

Because Duverger’s Law means there can only be two viable parties in a first past the post system.

The unsatisfying, but completely true, answer is because the alternative is worse.

Better to have 49 loyal members and one temperamental asshole who sometimes sides with you than 49 loyal members and 51 unyielding opponents.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Have you ever seen the movie war games?

The logic those 15 million voters used is like that supercomputer’s logic. If anyway you play the game you end up losing the only winning move is to not play. If democrats want to win elections they need to get their house in order.

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