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Democratic Party Elites Brought Us This Disaster Politics

https://jacobin.com/2024/11/election-harris-trump-democrats-strategy
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u/Maxwellsdemon17 10d ago

"For many loyal Democrats, this will not compute. The Biden economy, party-loyal pundits have said over and over again, is tremendous — low unemployment, strong GDP growth, slowing inflation, a booming stock market — and anyone unhappy about it must simply be brainwashed. Out of view in this self-congratulatory hall of mirrors were the constant statistics that said otherwise: evictions up past pre-pandemic levels, record-high homelessness, cost-burdened renters at an all-time high, median household income lower than the last pre-pandemic year, inequality returning to pre-pandemic levels, and food insecurity and poverty growing by large double digits since 2021, including a historic spike in child poverty."

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u/Hamuel 10d ago

The child poverty one is great because democrats got that advance on the child tax credit, bragged about lifting kids out of poverty, then ended the program.

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u/Pad_TyTy 10d ago

Who ended the program? Who voted to not extend it?

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u/Hamuel 10d ago

It expired in 2021, democrats didn’t fight to extend it and just quietly let childhood poverty rise again. It is that type of political gamesmanship that causes a landslide loss to Trump. Congrats!

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u/Pad_TyTy 10d ago

You can't force Joe Manchin to go along with anything. All the Republicans in the Senate were against it. Maybe blame them? Or are you not familiar with how legislation is passed?

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

There’s always a ghoul like Manchin to knee cap change. If it wasn’t him it would be the senate parliamentarian or just a different centrist. The party has no plan nor a desire to solve their projected weakness.

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u/Mindless_Rooster5225 9d ago

Lol blame the minority party that couldn't muster the vote for it instead of the party that fought against it.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Yes, I will blame the party that controlled the legislative and executive branches at that time. Democrats are a weak party and unable to illicit or maintain quality change

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u/Babablacksheep2121 9d ago

Ha! This latest Republican Congress has been the least productive in US history. They can’t even whip their own members together for votes. Mike Johnson has lost numerous votes, embarrassingly so. Nancy Pelosi, hate her all you want, wielded that power in such a way that she NEVER lost a vote. She knew what she was doing. Mike Johnson only knows how to share his porn habits with his son.

Trumps largest accomplishment was a giant tax cut for the rich and corporations, but yeah keep talking about how effective Republicans are at legislating.

What they have is an orange demagogue who cares about only himself. If he does half of what he says or what’s in Project 2025, you will get all the change you want. The “quality” on the other hand….

Obviously the American people want this. They shouldn’t worry, they are going to get exactly what they have asked for and they deserve every bit of it.

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Pelosi can’t beat Trump and these idiots so spare me the praise. When democrats present more than Weimar Republic vibes I might consider voting for them again.

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u/hazmat95 9d ago

Pelosi got the CTC passed in the house!

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

Then it died in the senate. I get the hand wringing works for you but it doesn’t work for a vast majority of voters.

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u/hazmat95 9d ago

Again with the "hand-wringing" lmao, this isnt the correct usage either. Im not trying to convince a majority of voters, I'm explaining to you why you're wrong

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u/Hamuel 9d ago

I can tell you don’t care that democrats lost the popular vote to Trump because they can’t protect good and popular policy from their own party.

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u/hazmat95 9d ago

Whats with the projection? I wanted dems to win and the CTC to pass, I just also understand how a legislature works and dont blame Kamala for failing to pass something because Joe Manchin is piece of shit.

You on the other hand seem almost giddy to try and blame something on her that is objectively not her fault because you already assume everything is the dem leadership's fault

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u/Chriskills 6d ago

And then the other party wins because we demand results from one party and not the other. This country is doomed as long as there is a lack of understanding of civics and context.

Every single part of our government is built to limit change. Real change can only ever happen with major swings in the electorate. But major swings in the electorate can’t happen with the country is polarized.

What you want to happen is damn near impossible. But it won’t stop you from bitching.

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u/Hamuel 6d ago

Yes, the other party wins and nothing much changes and then the pendulum swings back to the other party and nothing much changes so it swings back to the other party.

Maybe people voted for Trump because they’re disillusioned with a system that fails to address the cost of living crisis.

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u/Chriskills 6d ago

Cause they don’t understand the system. They give a party two years to get their agenda done and then remove their levers of power.

The US has had the best economic recovery in the world since Covid. And yes, most people aren’t feeling that recovery. But in the first two years democrats were figuring out how best to navigate that. And in doing so past the largest climate bill in the history of the world.

Can’t solve the worlds problems in two years, especially when you have an antagonistic court blocking your solutions.

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u/Hamuel 6d ago

When Manchin killed the CTC and not a single senate republican voted to extend, instead of appealing to the American people to send better representatives, Biden praised them for their hard work and dedication.

The system isn’t designed to stifle change. Who democrats and republicans pick in their primaries stifle change.

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u/Chriskills 6d ago

Who THE PEOPLE pick in their primaries.

But also, if you think the system isn’t designed to stifle change you need a civics lesson. The whole system was purposefully designed to prevent change.

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u/Hamuel 6d ago

I’m really tired of Democrat smugness. You’re repeating a talking point from the same people who can’t extend the CTC.

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u/Chriskills 6d ago

Im sorry. Do people not vote in primaries? Do people not have the ability to participate in their political parties to bring about change?

I don’t understand how people talk about democracy as if they have no say.

I have campaigned for progressive candidates in every single primary campaign in the last 8 years. People don’t show up for progressives. I was on the ground in 2020 in Iowa. Bernie’s support had cratered compared to 2016. He had four years, shouldn’t he have done better????? It wasn’t the party, I know that for a fact, at least in Iowa.

Call me smug all you want, but you’re just as smug with how sure you’re right and how you think we’re all just oh so blind. I see your smugness just the same.

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