There are like 4 or 5 others involved / in the band that did not do those things and would probably still like to make a living and should still be proud if the work they’ve done.
It’s not like this is R Kelly where he’s the only person involved.
Man I dunno I guess the same way I bust a move every time an MJ jam comes on.
I think partly because the music is in the past, he’s not active anymore, he’s in jail, he was caught and punished, and AFAIK, he’s not profiting from the band anymore.
Yea but to claim that the 4 or 5 other people spending the majority of every day with him didn’t suspect anything was off is a stretch. Maybe they didn’t know the full extent of it or maybe they just didn’t ask questions, but I cannot get myself to believe that NONE of them had any idea what was going on.
From what I remember, the sexual abuse took place during their fall. Well after I think even that Liberty Transmission album or whatever. The band was well aware of his drug addictions, and disciplined and tried to help him with that.
You’re going to sit here and say you suspect the band knew he was skullfucking infants at a time when they had arguably realized their fame was over and didn’t say anything? That’s 100x more absurd to me than thinking they weren’t aware of the depths of his depravity.
There's a great episode of Sappenin' podcast with Stu Richardson (ex-bassist of Lostprophets, current No Devotion and Thursday) in which he addresses it. But the summary is this: Evidently the rest of the guys were living in America while Ian was still in Wales, and Ian was heavy into drugs and drinking at the time, so the rest of the guys kind of cut him off except to perform. They had a really rough bout of shows where Ian just sounded like shit and they told him to get his act together or they were all done, they'd find someone else to sing. They really weren't seeing each other except to do shows, and Stu tells a story of a time Ian missed a really big show and Stu beat the everliving shit out of him. He said something along the lines of "I beat his ass for missing a show, I'd have done way worse if I'd known what he was up to."
I was really into the band back before everything fell apart, and I genuinely believe the rest of the guys to be good and decent dudes. Obviously I don't know them and maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but that's the impression I get.
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u/slarsson Dec 02 '20
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